Kerry will not win the second debate.

[Teaser]

He got lucky the first time, and Bush was obviously under the weather. It won't happen twice. Bush is still the same master debater he was before the first one, and nothing has changed that fact. Also, George will be infinitely more comfortable in the town hall format.

Kerry is going to get smoked.

[skooooo]

1. You're right...I think we're doomed.

...<sniff>

[elehhhhna]

17. What if JK brings his Waterman(pen) of Mass Destruction again?

[demokatgurrl]

54. Waterman!? What an elitist pen.

[AspenRose]

64. I thought "French-looking" Kerry used MONT BLANC pens.

Either way you look at it, it's a bad sign.

;-)

[Davis_X_Machina]

74. Although owned by Gillette...

....Waterman's good pens are French-made.

[TexasSissy]

45. We're DOOMED. Doomed, I tell you! Doomed!

[NewYorkerfromMass]

69. We are so, so doomed. I mean these debates are

'hard work'.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

2. you are joking right?

[mac56]

20. Oh, I only wish we were joking.

Bush is going to pummel Kerry like an inflatable boxing clown.

[Arkana]

3. Here we go again...

Yes, Bush is a master (de)bator. He will wipe the floor with Kerry. All your base are belong to us.

Can I go shower now?

[DixieDem]

6. ROTFL!!!

>> Bush is a master (de)bator

Good one!!!

[Machiavelli05]

68. I can predict the results already

Fox News calls debate in favor of Bush so to not piss off RNC owners
CNN calls debate a tie so to disuade anyone thinking that they are Dem leaning
The rest of the world calls debate in favor of Kerry.

[wicket]

4. Bush will mop the floor with Kerry in the next debate

Bush will be at the top of his game, he won't be worn out from visiting with Hurricane victims.

:evilgrin:

[Arancaytar]

8. Maybe, if he gets the earpiece repaired.

n/t

[displacedtexan]

5. Absolutely correct! Bush* was too distracted by serious affairs of state!

He'll be refreshed and focused this time! He won't be concentrating on the new Samara initiative this time, which he ordered 2 hours before the first debate began.

JK will really have to WORK HARD to keep up with Bush* this time!

[TexasSissy]

46. Yes. He'd been "werkin' hard" before the 1st debate, so was tired.

[Dudley_DUright]

7. Lowering expectations again are we?

I understand the necessity of this "game", but I really hate the cognitive dissonance that it invokes. It makes my head hurt to even imagine that Bush is a coherent thinker. :crazy:

[annabanana]

14. suck it up DUright! You can DU it!

:bounce:

[annabanana]

9. You KNOW how good Bush is in the "townhall" format.

He just LOVES answering questions from regular people.

[skooooo]

15. I hope * takes time to express his love..

..for the women.

[txindy]

44. Ewwwwww!!!

Not on my "TV screen," please!! I'll have to buy a new one, if that happens. :scared:

[underpants]

18. Well there will be some feedback from the audience this time

so Little Georgie's talking points on a loop will be at least effective (they couldn't have been any less effective in the first one) and the press is already writing up their praise of him, they want this to be close-why change their water carrying now?

[DuaneBidoux]

29. Yea' Great at Answering Difficult Questions from Supporters

at stage managed events such as: "Mr. President, what do you hope they say about you after you've served your second great term?"

[Stephanie]

30. Yes, especially if they have signed the Loyalty Oath and pledged servitude

So this Town Hall style debate should be awesome, even if Bush smirks and sweats and does that televangelist imitation thing that he does when he's lying, he is sure to win this style of debate as he is a master debater.

[itcfish1]

53. LOL

Only if they sign Loyalty Oaths. LOL

[sfecap]

10. Bush is the best debater since Lincoln.

He is superb.

He didn't do well last time because he was upset about the hurricane victims in Florida. He is a very compassionate man. Plus, he was tired because being pResident is hard work.

Kerry is in trouble. He better watch out.

[MrBenchley]

26. The next Winfred Churchill, says Bob Boudelang

After he cakewalked to victory in that first debate, he'll continue to point out in this one that Kerry sends mexed missages.

[IconoclastIlene]

48. Hummm.....might make Cicero look like a has been...

or never was.....that will be the day that this alcoholically demented man will win a debate.

[DarthDem]

11. Right On

Plus, with razor-sharp sleuths like Drudge out there, how likely is it that Kerry will be able to pull off something like THE PEN GAMBIT again? Not a chance.

[cheshire]

12. I'm worried about Edwards, he's so young. I can't even worry about how

Kerry will do he only did well because * was sick, I mean he really wasn't having a good night. I know he is so much better and this next one is going to be the damn town hall format that he does so good in. I hate this we have just started feeling good now it will be over. I so scared.

[Cheswick2.0]

13. I don't know if the will lose, but he certainly has his work cut out for

him. Bush is going to be better prepared this time and he is the President so he has a HUGE advantage right there.

[mac56]

16. Kerry knows he got lucky last time.

Bush was tired out after meeting the storm victims in Florida. He won't be so distracted again. I look for him to beat Kerry like a drum.

[MsTryska]

19. I agree. Dubya's gonna hand his ass to him.

The Townhall format is dubya's forte. It's where he can speak to the people, and sound all folksy and sincere.

His team won't let him lose this one. he'll be well-prepped and in his element. George W. Bush is a Masterdebator.

[terrya]

21. Yes, the first one was a fluke. Kerry is going to get fucking CREAMED.

It's all over, folks. Kerry will be humiliated.

[unfrigginreal]

22. I called the Doc for some Xanax this morning

Bush is always so comfortable in town hall settings. There's no way that Kerry will be able to match the quick wit that Bush has shown while getting spontaneous questions from the crowd. I've seen him many, many times during this campaign taking questions from the audience and they probably weren't all scripted. I'm really worried about this one.

[KC21304]

23. I can't wait to see the facial contortions Bush will present

as he is trying not to smirk. That will be worth the price of admission alone. :)

[skooooo]

28. Has anyone figured out the odds of Bush totally losing it..

..before the debates are over? I thought he was going to blurt something out during the 1st debate!!

[KC21304]

33. He did. He said " Let me finish " to no one in particular.

I think he will have to smile continuously and that will look just as goofy as his smirk.

[Clinton Crusader]

40. he was either answering Rove in his ear or

the voices in his head...
:kick:

[demokatgurrl]

55. If Rove is smart, he'll get Bush a botox injection. n/t

[Kammer]

24. Doomed

Kerry is doomed, DOOMED!!!

[aden_nak]

25. No Loyalty Oathes

Bush is going to be hindered by the fact that for the last six months, he has had his Town Hall audiences screened before they were allowed to occupy the same room as His Lordship. Anyone who practices at an activity, and this holds true from political debating to bare-knuckle fighting, knows that if you get used to a comfort zone or a handicap, and that advantage is suddenly taken away from you, you are at a disadvantage.

[Itchinjim]

27. Not only that, but the format favors *.

The Town Hall format favors Jr. As we all know * folksy charm and plain speaking style along with his master debating skills will win over a vast majority of the American people, including most of us here at DU. Kerry should just coincide right now and avoid total humiliation.

[gratuitous]

31. The analysis, while tongue-in-cheek, is partly true

Bush won't go into the second debate the way he did the first debate. He approached the first debate the same way he approaches everything in life, cavalierly and carelessly. His advisers have surely impressed upon him the need to do some actual hard work in preparation for the second appearance.

Look for Bush to be sharper, more attentive, and more focused. I know, but don't laugh. He'll be at his populist nice-guy best, chummy and folksy, spouting off the clichés that people who don't know any better love to hear: Lower taxes, better jobs, a more robust economy, and above all, lower taxes.

As long as he avoids details, he'll come out all right, and the pundits will have to change their shorts before they go on air to verbally orgasm about what an improvement Stupidhead made over the first debate, not that he did so bad, really, in that one, which a lot of people think he won, you know, because he's just such a gosh darn popular war president.

[DuaneBidoux]

32. Is This Thread Total Satire?

[KC21304]

34. Not totally.

[MallRat]

35. I agree. Bush thrives in the town-hall format.

He's one of the people. On the other hand, Kerry is stiff and long-winded.

We're toast. Pass it on.

;-)

[Touchdown]

36. You're aboslutely right. Bush is in his element with Town Hall.

Kerry won't have a chance against the folksy leader, and genuine man of the people, George W. Bush...God and savior of the common people.

We're DOOMED!

[Octafish]

37. Thanks for the big laugh.

You couldn't be funnier if your name was Karl Rove.

[Teaser]

39. Don't Bust on Karl.

Karl is a god to me. In addition to his wit, charisma, and impeccable sense of style, he is also a real ladies man.

100% class.

[mac56]

41. So true.

Ladies love the K-dog.

[Sideways]

59. Stop It You And Teaser Just Made Me Wet My Pants

Fuck that is some funny shit.

[Stephanie]

47. Octafish, remember Bush is a Master Debater

He was a little under the weather on Thursday, due to a busy day of biking and fishing and comforting hurricane victims. And Kerry messed up his tie. And the two minute limit was TOO LONG. And the podium was TOO HIGH. And Kerry had a PEN in his pocket, or was he just glad to be there?

[ParanoidPat]

38. This time Bush* is going to pin his tie down......

.....so Kerry can't skew it and win the debate! :evilgrin:

We're DOOOOOOMMMMMEEEDDD!

Edited to add: Bush* will not allow himself to be 'Dilberted' again! :)

[Francine Frensky]

42. Kerry is CRAZY if he even shows up!!! Let's try to think of excuses

for his absence.

[ParanoidPat]

43. Excellent idea! Worthy of it's own thread IMHO!

:evilgrin: ;-)

[Junkdrawer]

49. Yeah. They'll get a Vet to slam Kerry with his AntiWar testimony..

Kerry will never anticipate that!!!!

[sendero]

50. All this...

... winking and nudging is making me dizzy :)

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[Doosh]

52. Bush will mop the floor with Kerry

then feast on his bones, god help our candidate against the most brilliant debater in america, george w. bush.

[Walt Starr]

56. There's no way Kerry could be that lucky twice

Bush will mop up the floor with him. The Town Hall format is designed perfectly for Bush because he's that folksy, down to earth kind of guy.

We're in trouble this week!

[King Coal]

57. And don't forget about Poland!

[Jersey Devil]

58. We all know shrub is a cunning linguist

[opihimoimoi]

60. OMG... the Bush cometh.... we are doomed...............come, we go TUVA

move to Tuva, where the land is cheap and the food is delicious. Its only the throat singing that will get ya.

Bush will be in his element and the questions known to him... Kerry is doomed from the git go.

[llywrch]

62. So that's what he was doing with his mouth during the debate! (n/t)

[peter from vermont]

61. Wrong!

As Bob Hebert wrote in the NYT today, W has one big problem that just won't go away... he's out of touch with reality.

He's been reading Rove's counter-factual, reality-denying, smoke-screen script for so long, he has come to believe it. The problem for him is that facts are stubborn things and people are beginning (finally) to see threough the hypocritical bullshit the Republicans have been spewing.

Thus, expect to see more of the same from W in the next debate - "stay the course" w/ tax cuts and dismantling of Medicare and social security. The econmomy (like Iraq!?) is getting better! Yeah, right! Getting better for Wall Street, the wealthy, and a few corporations maybe, but not for the 1M who lost jobs, or the millions more who lost their jobs and have taken jobs at half their old pay, and no health insurance. Only suckers will join Bush in this bogus "domestic" leap of faith, probably the same suckers who buy into his jingoistic, destructive, middle east policies. But this is all they have to rely on - repeated assertions that their failed and harmful policies will prevail becuase they represent their notion of the american way. Pretty desparate startegy that didn't work in debate #1 and won't work in debate #2 or #3.

[yardwork]

72. Welcome to DU!

Let me take you aside and explain - we have a little strategery here we call "make the pie higher" - it involves lowering expectations - get it, wink wink nudge nudge.

[kaitykaity]

63. We need a sarcasm alert icon for the slow witted here.

That would be me.

It took me way too long to see that tongue planted in
cheek.

:crazy:

[Cha]

65. DOOM DOOM DOOM!

rove will find some way to get bush back on top..he's probably pulling his hair out now over it.

[mac56]

67. Too late.

Breaking my own rule - poking fun at someone's appearance. In this case I think it's justified.

[BlueNomad]

66. Bush

has never lost a debate.

[zulchzulu]

70. Bush: Master Debator and Cunning Linguist

Ewww....we are SO scared.

[NJmaverick]

71. was that master debater or masterbater?

LOL! bush is an idiot with little ability beyond parroting party talking points.

[demwing]

77. No No, It was Mass Debater

He could debate the entire Dem party, on Sunday, with a communion chip in his mouth and an altar boy tied behind his back.

Oh yeah, and he would win because he's God's "Chosen One."

[EndElectoral]

73. Bush is defintely a Masterduhbator...Maybe that's why he grimaces so much

[Zynx]

75. Yeah Bush was just off his game. *wink*

He's really a very smart man.

[UpsideDownFlag]

76. does W feel guilty when he MasterDebates?

[Pepperbelly]

78. Bush will gain SYNERGY from the crowd ... when he starts laying it down

like he does on the stump, the crowd will ooooh and awwwwwwwww just like they do when he speaks with the fake-assed old-time hay bales that no one uses anymore except rubes who are trying to fool other rubes.

Blinky will break it down for us, spoon feed it and then ask God to bless us.