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ranosgol Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 01:15 AM
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if * is so popular why do his supporters get so hostile?
I mean if he is so popular Kerry should not be a threat. Kerry signs and t-shirt should be a joke to them since * is so popular who cares if somone see's a poster.


If somone gets hostile to you while wearing a Kerry button or smething you shoud tell them that they are welcome......you are giving this coountry back to the people.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 01:16 AM
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1. They hate us for our freedom. n/t
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:14 AM
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12. Touche! nt
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 01:21 AM
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2. Mostly because they aren't...
... rational. Someone (probably Thomas Frank) once described the far right as "sore winners." Some people get a thrill out of seeing imminent threats everywhere. Psychologists call them paranoic personalities.

As well, there might be some aspects of bullying about it--reinforcing rather limp self-esteems by bullying others.

Look at this way--in a month, they'll have a helluva lot more to complain about. :P
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 01:23 AM
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3. I think you're right about that bullying
as well. I also think they're still hungover from Clinton, both the sheer hatred and the hunting.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 01:27 AM
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4. Paranoia Supreme
There's a mindset in Repugnicans of a "black or white" "all or nothing" "with us or against us" mentality that plays on all sorts of psychotic reactions.

For years they've had drummed in their heads by Rushbo and others that everyone's out to get them. Of course there are the A-rab...err Terrorists...and of course those librul commie.

These are people who want absolutes...no grey area, no thinking outside the box, and their leaders prey on this mentality by instilling fear in them and encourage isolation and blind obedience.

For the past decade, these people have had their run of the government and media and still are bitter and disturbed. One major reason is they know their manchild wasn't elected by the majority (these same assholes would undercut Clinton's authority by saying he didn't win a pluarlity (the majority of ALL votes cast)) and they have had this blot they want to get rid of.

I think the right got a real jolt earlier this year when they saw how mad Democrats were getting and how united we started to become. They hadn't faced such competition and instead their paranoia/panic buttons are being hit.

Ask a serious question and these people can't give you a straight answer (without Rovian spin) if their life depended on it, and they live in an echo chamber where dissent (thanks to organized religion) is considered blasphemy.

What Rove has done is created a fantasy world for his manchild and sold it to the Repugnicans and wingnuts in terms that are loaded with absolutes and religious references wrapped in a flag. Strip away or even question any of these...symbolized by the manchild...and you've hit their paranoia button.

Personally, I love doing it these days as these people are just trying to hold onto their own. They don't want to convert you or me and are having a lot of troubles just keeping their minority intact. Of course they're defensive...they're just too stupid and arrogant to realize what's happening in this country. Winds of change have blown and they're the one getting swept out.

These people are naturally selfish, greedy and insecure...the GOOP plays to these "virtues" like a violin. No wonder they're so damn conflicted and confused. But they still remain dangerous. Step one is just to keep focused on the majority of open minds and we start swinging this country back to sanity starting Nov. 2.

Cheers!
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 01:29 AM
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5. They Know, Mr. Gol, They Do Not Have Enough Votes
Makes a fella just a tetch irritable....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 01:39 AM
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7. Yes, just a tetch


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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 01:32 AM
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6. You Sir or Lady have answered your own question. Why indead. This is a fun
fact that we can relish for quite some time to come. LOL
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:54 AM
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10. Isn't this the truth!!!!!
:toast:
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:22 AM
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8. I was overheard commenting to a friend at Wells Fargo about Fox News
I was complaining that the bank had a big TV running Fox News for the bank customers while waiting in line, and of course Fox was showing Bush speaking LIVE at a rally.

Forgot I lived in a "red" state, and made an anti-Bush statement and the rest of the folks in the bank turned on me like a black man at a KKK cross-burning. I was looking over my shoulder leaving the bank and not for bank robbers.

I am about to change banks if Wells Fargo continues to play Fox in their lobbies.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 04:53 AM
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9. "Thank God for 911" WTF?
Notice that sign?

That is what people mean when they say Fundie Nutcase.

Damn glad that I don't know any people that would make a sign like that and be proud to display it in public.
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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:01 AM
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11. Fred Phelps & "The Family" from Kansas
At a gay man's funeral.

The essence of Fundie hate.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:16 AM
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13. What did they do? Dirty looks, comments, what? nt
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:30 AM
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14. They made loud comments from behind hate-filled eyes.
I tried to ignore a couple of the men, but they mainly parroted what they had heard on the Swift Boat commercials. I really pissed them off by commenting that if I were in uniform, I couldn't follow a "deserter-in-chief". One red-faced guy was following me out of the bank and I kept him in my rear view mirror, for sure.

Wells Fargo should not be carrying Fox News in their lobbies, since it is NOT "fair and balanced"!
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 09:22 AM
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21. Personally, I'm opposed to TV sets everywhere we go, anyway,

but especially when they're tuned to FOX "news".

Glad you escaped unharmed from confronting those RWers..
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RoyalWickedness Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 10:01 AM
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25. A while back
before my benefits ran out, I was in the Unemployment Office. Fox News on 6 huge televisions. Did I mention this was the Unemployment Office? A government agency? Not a privately owned bank, where I could choose to take my business elsewhere.
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zinsky Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:45 AM
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15. They Are Super-Patriots, Don't You Know?

A super-patriot is someone who loves his country so much that he hates 90% of the people who live in it!!!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:47 AM
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16. because they're very very very STUPID little brownshirts.
We were right.

They were WRONG.

bushCartel were WRONG.

Drudge was WRONG.

NewsMarx was WRONG.

WorldNetDaily was WRONG.

Faux Moos was WRONG WRONG WRONG.

80% of Faux Moos viewers were misinformed. And WRONG.

And what do the freeping rightwingnuts do? Any NORMAL human being would stop listening to and believing bushCartel and Drudge and NewsMarx and WND and Faux Moos.

But not the freeping rightwingnuts.

NO common sense.

NO logic.

NO capability for rational thinking.

They're unable to think on their own, and they much prefer the marching in lockstep fascist state over a democracy. Which is why they love their little fascist dictator.
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 06:04 AM
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18. was told in a Crawfordsville, IN bar in 1961 the US was becoming fascist
A German national student was being harrassed by American college boys about being a NeoNazi, even given clicked heels and Sig Heils. The German student took offense and blurted out that the next world fascist power would be the USA.

He said he had anguished over why his well educated parents had been duped. They said they got "caught up" in the jingoism and when they realized they had helped create a monster, it was too late, the borders were even sealed to prevent escape.

I had almost forgotten what Lothar told us that night until a decade later when Nixon, in his paranoia, was creating the beginnings of a police state. When "war" was declared on drugs, I then remembered Lothar warning, "Be vigilant what your government does at your borders. The machinery set up to keep OUT drugs, aliens (now days, terrorists) can easily be converted to keeping Americans IN!

So many things I heard that night from a German student have been coming to pass, especially since the Bush cabal took over. I have never been so concerned about my nation in my 65 years living here.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 09:37 AM
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22. Indeed a good point friend
One I've heard expressed by several Germans who lived through the Hitler madness. The US has increasingly exhibited more and more signs of the coming facism for the past sixty years. Part of it is because we have had a facist fasination since the beginning of the 20th century, witness Henry Ford's works, and the Nazi/facist poltical uprising during the '30s. Another part is our inherent racism that still currently exists to this day. Many many racists are still looking for that final solution, and that harkens back to the Civil War era. And still another factor is the US embracing many former Nazi personell, both into our government and our intelligence community. This has led to a poisoning of our body politic.

Combine this with the dumbing down of America, the ratcheting up of the propoganda level, a sense of defeat left over from the Vietnam war, and the need to overcompensate for it, and you've got the seeds for a major facist takeover in this country. We are just now beginning to see those seeds flourish, and if we continue to go down our current path, they will flower.

The sad thing is that both parties are to blame for this usrptation of our democratic principles. Electing Kerry in November will slow down this phenomenon, but certainly won't stop it. The only way that will happen is by getting big business out of government, and that requires a change that many won't be willing to make until it is too late.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 05:49 AM
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17. They are full of Fear and Hate!
They fear that you will tell them the truth and they can't handle the truth.
They Hate because they have been filled with it for so long.
It is amazing to sit in church and listen to the Christian Right shout out with hate. These very people will tell you in one breath that it is not Christ like to hate and the next, they will tell you how they hate the Democrats.
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 06:18 AM
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20. Rev. Baxter, publisher of "Endtimes" mag says Dems are in league w/Satan
The Richmond, Indiana Pentecostal evangelist travels the nation telling fundamentalists that God is with George W. Bush, and that Democrats like Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and others like Kofi Annan are "in league" with the devil.

Of course, the Rev. Irwin Baxter is preaching that Armageddon is coming soon, and if Jesus won't "fast forward" events, then maybe it is the responsibility of the religious right to force God's hand, and push for the wars which will bring about the Rapture and the "endtime".

http://www.endtime.com/ :evilgrin:

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Maiden England Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 06:17 AM
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19. I always thought it was so ironic
that in a country designed to run without fear of being overtaken by a dictator style leadership, by people who wanted the ability to express themselves in religious freedom, that its the fundies that seem to want to push this country into a fascist regime. I find it reprehensible, that these people use the name of God to spread hate. It always seemed to me, you found God, in order to find love and understanding.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 09:39 AM
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23. OOOh oOOH I got it RABIES? No VD? no Retardation? no Fear by religion. Yes
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 09:58 AM
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24. Honk-and-Wave on Friday
A car with two twentyish males drove past our location, both of the cursing us loudly. They then turned into the parking lot near the intersection where we were standing and proceded to curse out one of our volunteers, a sweet elderly woman who probably weighs ninety pounds soaking wet. The passenger in the car was literally hanging out the window and jabbing his finger at our voluteer who, I'm proud to say, didn't retreat one inch.

Because of the traffic noise I couldn't hear what he was saying to her, and when I asked, she just replied, "Let's just say that it's anatomically impossible, and he's not my type anyway."

I love old broads. They're the best!
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