Read what the jackass Rove is saying ( I say the hell it is):

[umtalal]

White House political guru Karl Rove strongly disputed the instant polls showing most Americans preferring Kerry's Sept. 30 performance. "Remember four years ago, the same thing happened," Rove told reporters. "People said Gore won the debate. Well, it turned out Bush won the debate and the election. And the same thing is going to happen this time."

From the Business Week Online. Link follows:

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/oct2004/nf2004101_1819_db038.htm

[Mr_Spock]

1. Not sure why his comments mean anything - what do you expect that

crony to say? I'm gonna hide this thread.

[phish420]

22. I disagree STRONGLY!!!!!!!!!

They do mean something. What he says is what his little sheep say the next day at the office. I swear to god people, you dont know what you are up against. I went to a place to fix a computer the other day, and on the wall of this guys office was a sign that read "Proud Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy". The funny thing is, I BELIEVE IT! The guy had several signed pictures of bush* including one of him and his wife with him. This place is a little shop in Orlando, FL. Another Business in Orlando, owned by my step-grandfather, has several employees, all at the top, who are extreme neocons, and unfortunately they have sucked my father into their evil web.
To say Karl Roves words mean nothing is idiocy. To hide the post is unamerican. To fail to recognize that Karl Rove is who we are really trying to beat, NOT bush*, is a fatal mistake that will cost this election.

[Kurovski]

23. You know, I hear there's a videotape out there

of Karl eating his boogers.

[homerthompson]

2. overconfidence is his greatest weakness,

as well as his faith in his puppet, the shrub.

[enough]

3. Only two facts wrong there, what are you complaining about?

[redstateblues]

4. Whe Rove Goes Public- they're scared

[Lex]

5. Rove: Grasping. At. Straws.

Nothing more, nothing less.

[Longhorn]

6. Earth to Rove -- this ain't 2000! n/t

[Julien Sorel]

7. The difference is, everything Gore did "wrong"

in the 2000 debates, Bush did wrong in this one, plus he got whipped on the substance.

Who could describe Bush as "likeable" after that performance?

[NightOwwl]

8. "And the same thing is going to happen this time."?

Arrogant bastard. I know it's rude to comment on people's looks but he is an exception. He is so freaking ugly on the outside, but even uglier on the inside.

[cliss]

14. you are so right.

Every time I look at his fat, pasty babyface (which isn't often - he hides out a lot), I get pretty disgusted. He has these chubby cheeks that disclose that the guy likes to eat rich food and doesn't get very much exercise.

Is this guy married? (who'd want him). He's just.....repulsive. When he dies, he will become a ghoul with long fangs that will hover above graveyards......Iraqi graveyards, that is.

[Keirsey]

16. Bush's Brain

Rove-ing look at `Bush's Brain'
Review by Paul Sherman
Friday, October 1, 2004

Forget about ``Anacondas'' and ``Alien Vs. Predator.'' ``Bush's Brain'' is the scariest movie around.

Although its filmmaking is rudimentary, the movie - based on the book of the same name by Texas reporters James C. Moore and Wayne Slater - follows the career of Karl Rove, President Bush's senior adviser and perhaps the most powerful unelected politician in the nation.

``Bush's Brain'' paints an unappealing portrait of Rove, who declined an invitation to be interviewed.

Taking a chronological path, ``Bush's Brain'' heats up in the early 1970s, when most people were disgusted by the dirty tricks carried out by the Nixon White House, but Rove seemed to take such tactics as inspiration.


Soon he was elbowing past allies to advance himself, using a Nixonian end-justifies-the-means philosophy.

What's most interesting about ``Bush's Brain'' is the recurrent modus operandi of campaigns and administrations with which Rove has been associated. The movie has no smoking guns, but its circumstantial evidence is quite damning and it traces Rove's political hardball back to Texas state politics.

There's the fishy charge he made in the 1986 Texas gubernatorial campaign that his office had been bugged by his candidate's opponent, the smears against Texas incumbent Gov. Ann Richards when he led George W. Bush's campaign to unseat her in 1994, innuendo about John McCain in the 2000 South Carolina Republican primary and attacks on Georgia incumbent Sen. Max Cleland in the 2002 election.

The similarity between the recent Swift Boat Veterans for Truth anti-Kerry attacks and the dirty tricks against Richards, McCain and Cleland should give anyone pause. So should a C-SPAN clip of a March 2002 Rove speech in which he talks about war as a campaign tool.

In addition to appearances by the book's authors, ``Bush's Brain'' includes interviews with other veteran Texas journalists as well as former Rove associates, some still supportive. As is the case with many of this year's political documentaries, ``Bush's Brain'' offers an unflattering assessment of the mainstream media.

(``Bush's Brain'' includes cursing.)

http://theedge.bostonherald.com/movieReviews/view.bg?articleid=492

"The similarity between the recent Swift Boat Veterans for Truth anti-Kerry attacks and the dirty tricks against Richards, McCain and Cleland should give anyone pause. So should a C-SPAN clip of a March 2002 Rove speech in which he talks about war as a campaign tool."

Is this clip still available? If so, we need to get this message out!

[TexasSissy]

I don't recall if that's true, but we know that * could still win.

But still.....this is a good night for Kerry and the Dems. The race is closer, now.

[DeepModem Mom]

9. The question is will the media fall in line behind Rove on this --

So far, I've been surprised at their assessment. I think that humor piece over the weekend (from Kos?) about CNN's already having declared Bush the winner may have had an influence.

[tuvor]

10. Well, Karl, as you know 9/11 changed everything.

In these days of neverending terra, people want someone with leadership qualities.

[dave29]

11. That's such a pre 9/11 mentality from Rove

isn't it?

[foo_bar]

13. meme alert!

Rove is so September 10th.

[Algorem]

12. He's just trying to keep his chins up.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

15. Gore won the election by half a million votes

Karl is a liar.

[AnIndependentTexan]

17. We can help keep Kerry from turning into Gore

First we need to use AirAmerica. Have them alert and aware of this. Second, someone collect the C-SPAN footage. Third, We need to release transcripts, audio tapes, and video of the C-SPAN footage. Fourth, any media that you see saying Bush won report to DNC, Moveon.org, Kerry/Edwards, and any blogger you know that can spread word about the truth. Last, If we have to we need to get a 527 group to monitor this and hit back as well. We can stop them from doing this.

[Zorra]

18. Pssst, Karl....I know who jammed your transmitter.....

and she also knows how to change votes on electronic voting machines via satellite.

Better think about it, Krusty.;-)

[Justitia]

19. Cuz they're gonna steal it again?

"And the same thing is going to happen this time."

[flordehinojos]

20. Back in 1992 when George Herbert Walker Bush lost to Bill Clinton

The Bushes and the Republicans gave Clinton Hell to Pay.

I sincerely hope that this Kerry Victory over Bush will not give him Hell to Pay in the next few weeks. The Bushes do not like to lose and they can be quite a source of pain when they do.

[Triana]

21. bu$h did NOT win the election NOR did he win..

...the debates in 2000. Just because Rove and the MEDIA say he did, doesn't make it true (to use JOHN KERRY'S words...).

Dirty trickery, friends in high places, and corprat media ownership are what got bu$hit in the White House - he didn't WIN anything. He's a loser.