Bush blew it when he spoke about the International Criminal Court

[genius]

It's him they want and he brought it up. It looked as if he were trying to defend himself against charges that he is a war criminal.

[DenverDem]

1. Big time.

He brough it up himself because he couldn't defend against renigging on all the treaties.

Hoisted by his own petard. (Archaic phrase meaning "shot by your own cannon")

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Both my hubby and I had the same reaction

it was amazing...

[librechik]

10. not exactly--the petard is an important piece of the knight's armor

the part which protects the codpiece. When a man is hoist by his own petard, well-- it is a bit more excruciating than being shot mercifully by a cannon ball.

[DenverDem]

13. Wrong, actually both of us, but I was closer.

It means to be blown up by your own bomb. From Shakespear's "Hamlet".

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[librechik]

17. haha! we must meet! I too, am a Denver Dem

and I am fascinated by the concept that I must have had a perv for HS Shakespeare! I'll bet it was Mr. Koerber...

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. Petard - from "breaking wind" - means "box of explosives to break a door"

Petard {MF from peter to break wind, from pet expulsion of intestinal gas (fart) from Latin and Greek roots}: a case containing an explosive to break down a door or gate or breach a wall (in sieges).

So, "hoist by your own petard" means either blown into the air by your own fart, or blown into the air by making a mistake with explosives.

[DenverDem]

24. The petardieres who set the bomb & lit the pitard's fuse had to be quick

or they would be "hoisted".

They were buckets of powder with a wooden lid.

busholini wasn't very quick tonight and got blown up by his own brain farts.

[LoZoccolo]

3. It probably only resonated with their conspiracy-theory base.

People who are afraid of the UN taking over and the like.

[cheshire]

4. You could have stopped after * blew it. He was a casuality.

[Paragon]

5. I was waiting for Kerry to bring up Abu Ghraib.

He either missed it, or didn't have a rebuttal on the subject.

[Roland99]

9. I thought Kerry might address that after Bush

mentioned the "hands being chopped off"

[librechik]

11. Bush was already down

why kick him?

[AgadorSparticus]

15. because he's not out? when he pulls out of the race, we'll back off.

until then, i say no mercy. that's just my opinion of these nasty, lying bastards.

[genius]

18. This could be used to make it look like he's anti-military.

[JohnKleeb]

6. those other countries have to have their own citizens tried too

:eyes: It was a pitiful arguement. I just wish I could see him defend the landmines, "landmines are essential to winning the war on terra"

[tuvor]

7. It was like he was *wanting* to lose.

Now, that sounds like a potential meme.

[genius]

20. I thought it might be a medical problem. Bush was rambling

as if he didn't know what to say.

[cliss]

21. Interesting point.

I've read that several people here have mentioned that he's not doing a good job out campaigning. He seems to be tired of repeating the same old shit. It just sounds repetetive and trite.

Maybe the Old Boy's tired. I say let's ship him off to Crawford right now.

[Polemonium]

8. I agree this was huge.

Flouting international law on national television will not play well, and most Americans were not even aware that we do not support the International Criminal Court. Then the moral majority is left scratching their heads, 'Why are we afraid our people would be prosecuted?'

[dolstein]

12. Newsflash: Nobody gives a damn about the International Criminal Court

If you honestly think that remark is going to sway votes, you are seriously deluded.

[DenverDem]

14. It's just another brick in the wall.

One more instance of busholini shirking responsibility.

[Senior citizen]

25. Maybe it won't sway votes from the far right.

I'm sure that law-and-order types will rationalize their opposition to law-and-order if it is international. Ve vant ze law unt order, ober, only ze izolationist law unt order. But there may be some undecideds who recognize a self-indictment when they hear one.

But until President Kerry gets the opportunity to make some SCOTUS appointments, it is our only hope. You can't prosecute a war criminal in the court that installed him. The chimp was a moran to bring it up. It will certainly harden the determination of many of us the left to get out and vote and fight to see that our vote is counted.

[MsMagnificent]

19. Yup!

Our very own president brought up for War Crimes.

That's where Orange Chimpy and his Freeper chorus has brought us!

[Triana]

22. EXACTLY what I thought too...

..open mouth, insert foot...

[krkaufman]

23. Agreed. Bush mentioning ICC and putting his daughters on leashes...

... both popped-up visuals of Abu Ghraib for me.