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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 04:52 PM
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Two minutes with Kerrys biggest audience of the campaign
At the end of the debate each candidate gets to speak for 2 minutes.

I will not even pretend I know what he should say--he has highly trained people to help him with that.

But.... with the biggest audience he will have before election day, I HOPE he finds time to slam home the point that bush calls him a flip flopper when the real flip flopper is the pResident!!!

The BIGGEST and many times the ONLY argument I hear nowadays from chimpy supporters is Kerry can't make up his mind.

He could absolutely NAIL bush on this and take away thier biggest gun with the uniformed public.

Am I right on this? If not, what could be more important? What does he need to squeeze in..... in that brief 2 minutes?
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 04:53 PM
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1. Halliburton.
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bringbackfdr Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 04:55 PM
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2. Reagan redux
Is American better off than we were four years ago? Is the world? Do you feel like we should keep going in the same direction for another four years?
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judy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 04:58 PM
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3. I kinda agree with goodhue...
He should say that his solution for Iraq includes replacing Halliburton, Bechtel, etc. by true Iraqi companies, who can rebuild Iraq as they did after 91 with less money and who can put a stop to the incredible unemployment rate over there.
The anger over the theft of reconstruction profits and jobs is one of the main things that are fueling the insurgency.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 04:58 PM
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4. Jim Lehrer will probably ask Kerry about flip-flop
during the debate, & that will be the time for him to unload.

He should say his position has been consistent, but Bush IS the real flip-flopper, & here is why.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:56 PM
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19. And then he should use his 2 minute close
for right direction/wrong direction.

And he should say something about how the country is so divided, & he wants to be the President of EVERYONE, not only those who agree with him.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 05:03 PM
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5. Absolutely, he has to take Bush out on the flip-flopper issue.
I think he should challenge Bush to compare their pre war statements to their present statements on Iraq. Especially Bush's speech to the UN and his statement to Congress outlining his cause for war. He has done nothing that he promised in these statements. And he is not paying the price for it. And Kerry is now saying exactly what he said in his speech to the Senate before the IRW vote.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 05:03 PM
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6. Make the point that * is friends with OBL's family and he has failed to go
after him. Remind people they are not safe.
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SeekingTruth Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 05:04 PM
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7. It should be stern, serious, firm and how he will
protect the US and why Bush should not be elected....
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 05:05 PM
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8. Explain that the terrorists don't hate us for our "Freedom"...
but for our heavy handed policies. And that God's gift to the world is salvation. Salvation is not really the same thing as freedom. Freedom must be won, not given, for it to mean anything.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 05:08 PM
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9. isn't it pathetic?
We are at war, 1000's dead, deficit soaring, health care in a shambles...and Kerry gets 2 minutes to make his case.

What a joke.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 05:18 PM
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12. 2 minutes is plenty long enough
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that "all men are created equal"

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived, and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of it, as a final resting place for those who died here, that the nation might live. This we may, in all propriety do. But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow, this ground -- The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have hallowed it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here; while it can never forget what they did here.

It is rather for us, the living, we here be dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that, from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they here, gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve these dead shall not have died in vain; that the nation, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people by the people for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 05:14 PM
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10. He should say that the man who was President on 9/11
didn't protect us and why should anyone trust him to do so in the future. Also, that on August 6, 2001 while having a good time down on the ranch, Bush was warned that Osama planned to strike in the USA and Bush failed to react.

He should say that Bush gave away millions (billions) of dollars in the form of a small check to each tax payer and ended up squandering our national surplus.

He should say that everything positive that was handed to Bush when he took office in Jan 2000 has now turned to sh*t.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 05:16 PM
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11. I hope
he ignores Bush and Bush's lies completely. I'd like to hear a concise, uplifting message of hope. Something inspiring that will make people want to start a new chapter in our history.
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 05:24 PM
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13. I am totally with you
I hope Kerry does not try to take the high road of "here is what I will do"

I hope he says "president bush cant' decide on this or that. But here is what I will do. . ."
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 05:27 PM
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14. Kerry needs to explain
That he is a moderate and as a result gets wooed by Republicans and Democrats. What Bush calls flipflopping is really just part of diplomacy and negotiation, something that Bush does too little of. Kerry should say that he is a consistent moderate. The only people who appear never to flipflop are those who are on the extremes.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 05:42 PM
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15. I hope he never speaks to Bush
That he refers to Bush as "George Bush," not as "President Bush."

That he mixes a message of hope and inspiration with a measure of flabbergasted disbelief that Bush is so disconnected from reality.

That he speaks in short sentences and about simple issues to which all Americans can relate

and that he goes in mad, but acts like he is relaxed and having fun. Kerry scores when he gets real, but he destroys his opponents when he gets a little mad. Use it.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 05:44 PM
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16. Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?
.. and something about keeping the country safe.
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msanger Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 05:50 PM
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17. he previewed just that approach
WHen Diana Sawyer (I think) interviewed him on the CBS (I think) news and asked him about "flip flop" he replied that the republican ad campaign has been very effective, but that if you look at bush's record, you will see flipflop after flopflop.

First he was against homeland security, then he was for it
he was again 9/11 commission and then for it.
the list goes on and on.

Sounded like he was prepping us for the debate.
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 06:46 PM
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18. Whose two minutes will come first? n/t
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jumpstart33 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:11 PM
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20. That's the real question. The person speaking last will have the edge.
I think the challenger should be last.
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 08:12 PM
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21. Exactly what I was thinking. n/t
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