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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:16 PM
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"Gallup Is At It Again- Yesterday's National Poll had 12% GOP bias!"
Edited on Tue Sep-28-04 12:25 PM by flpoljunkie
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/002881.html

Gallup Is At It Again - Yesterday's National Poll Had 12% GOP Bias

Gallup has done it again. After supplying CNN and USA Today with a poll two weeks ago that showed a double-digit Bush lead amongst likely voters that turned out to have a significant bias in its sample favoring the GOP, Gallup did it again yesterday.

Except that yesterday, they not only did it again, they apparently felt that a 7% GOP bias wasn't good enough. So they perpetrated the same fraud upon the media (including their partners CNN and USAT) and voters and this time used a 12% GOP bias in their likely voter screen. I kid you not.

Here is the text from the email I got from Gallup this morning outlining the party ID breakdown in their likely voter samples from their two most recent national polls:


Likely Voter Sample Party IDs – Poll of September 13-15
Reflected Bush Winning by 55%-42%


Total Sample: 767
GOP: 305 (40%)
Dem: 253 (33%)
Ind: 208 (28%)

Likely Voter Sample Party IDs – Poll of September 24-26
Reflected Bush Winning by 52%-44%

Total Sample: 758
GOP: 328 (43%)
Dem: 236 (31%)
Ind: 189 (25%)

more...
____________

CNN's own analysis of 2000 exit polling from Voter News Service shows 39% of voters identified themselves as Democrats voted vs. 35% Republican and 27% Independent!

http://www.udel.edu/poscir/road/course/exitpollsindex.html
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Ruffhowse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:18 PM
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1. What is up with this blatant favoritism by Gallup? I know they were
bought out by some RW group a while back, but to so obviously skew their showcase poll seems self destructive.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:18 PM
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2. and bush is barely squeking by 50%, good news for us. Keep fighting!
WE can kick that scum out of D.C.
The media is not about to annoint shrubya.
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:21 PM
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3. This frightens me.
Why are they blatantly propping Bush up in the polls? Simple. They're going to steal it again, and since Bush was ahead in the polls, the majority of the uninformed in this country won't bat an eye.

Yes, in reality Kerry is leading, but all that matters is the fabricated fantasy land of Diebold.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:32 PM
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6. It scares me too.
I see these polls and think "the fix is in." :tinfoilhat:

I zapped off emails to CNN and MSNBC about this. If they want to report these polls they need to include the data sample. I still can't believe how Dan Rather was castigated by his peers for airing "fake" documents, when to his credit, he thought the documents he were genuine when he aired them. CNN and MSNBC know they are promoting bogus data to prop up the boy king and they don't even care. They have no shame. :grr:
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DemMother Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:23 PM
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4. Does anyone have link to info that Gallup head is born-again fundie?
I've seen it mentioned but can't find a story about it.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:24 PM
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5. i think they are really wrong
on their sats-bush has at least a 75% lead over kerry and it is increasing daily. by election day he should have 99% of the vote and every electoral vote. kerry should quit now and we should all start a mass migration to canada
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:38 PM
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7. Um...
The first (9/13 - 9/15) adds up to 101%, and the second (9/24 - 9/26) is only 89%. Not only is Gallup GOP skewed, but they can't add either. It seems to me a polling company should be better with numbers. :crazy:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:41 PM
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8. Can anybody prove to me Gallup is RW or funded by them?
I posted it on GD and people told me no, but that they had a flawed methodology (obvious!)

I would love to have proof to include in a LTTE.

Also, what were the party demographics in '92 and '96?

Thanks
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:42 PM
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9. Somebody's been paid off
Someone at Gallup has been promised a job or something, this is fuckin ridiculous.
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NoSunWithoutShadow Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:01 PM
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10. MoveOn.Org has a full page ad in the NYT today, Page A5
Edited on Tue Sep-28-04 01:27 PM by AnybodyButBush
It's titled "Gallup-ing To The Right".

Sorry I can't find a link to it. There's a donkey chasing an elephant and it reads, "Why does America's Top Pollster Keep Getting It Wrong?"

Half way through it says, "This is more than just a numbers game. Poll results profoundly affect a campaign's news coverage as well as the public's perception of the candidates."
...

"The public would be better served if journalists asked some tough questions, beginning with the Gallup Organization, which had been asked to select the audience for the Bush-Kerry 'town meeting' debate on October 8."
...

The last three paragraphs read:

"George Gallup Jr., son of the poll's founder, was the longtime head of the company and now directs its non-profit research center. Why hasn't he pushed for an update of the company's likely voter modeling, which his own father pioneered in the 1950's?"

"Gallup, who is a devout evangelical Christian, has been quoted as calling his polling 'a kind of ministry.' And a few months ago, he said 'the most profound purpose of polls is to see how people are responding to God.'"

"We thought the purpose is to faithfully and factually report public opinion."

MoveOn.Org
Democracy in Action

(Mods, I hope the copyright rules don't apply to paid advertisements.)

Edited for a typo.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:22 PM
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11. Sounds like they have been outed.
Good, they will be completely discredited after this election.
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