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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:39 AM
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Revolting WP editorial on Kerry vs. Bush re: Iraq
Mr. Kerry recognizes that Iraq now has become "a haven for terrorists" and that consequently "we cannot afford to throw up our hands <and> see Iraq become a permanent source of terror." But his stated goals for Iraq are focused on the withdrawal of American troops, not the defeat of this threat. We believe Mr. Bush is right to insist on a broader struggle against terrorism, one that explicitly includes the political transformation of the Middle East. And he is better at setting goals for Iraq.

:wtf:

(This was a quote from an unsigned editorial in yesterday's Post that was sent to me via e-mail. I can't locate the link. Sorry!)
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:44 AM
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1. Seems like the WP.....
is going to endorse Bush....cannot remember the last time the WP endorsed a repub for Prez. This after they admit that Bush fooled them into believing that there was an imminent threat in Iraq....

UP IS DOWN, DOWN IS UP!
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:46 AM
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3. do you think the Novak and Valerie Plame issue will play a part in it
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:47 AM
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6. why do you say that?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:48 AM
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7. doesn't Robert Novak write for the Washington Post ?
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:53 AM
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10. Nope....
he writes for the Chicago Tribune or that other chicago major newspaper...one of those papers....
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:55 AM
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12. i might be thinking of someone else then
but i don't read novak's columns anyway
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:45 AM
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2. I think whoever wrote that doesn't know what they're talking about
I find it highly doubtful that you can spread democracy at the point of a gun. The whole region is already intensely skeptical of anything we do supposedly out of good intentions, and rather than thinking "gee, that was nice of them. Maybe they're not so bad after all . . ." they start theorizing what our ulterior motive is. I personally think that the US cannot be expected to be effective in spreading democracy in the region. I think that we would just create more hatred and resentment.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:47 AM
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4. I only wish the author of this editorial.....
had a son or daughter in Iraq....I think he/she would then have a very different opinion of the matter.

Plus, Kerry's position is not to throw up our hands and give up and leave Iraq...where is he getting this info?
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:47 AM
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5. Linked
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50538-2004Sep25.html

Last paragraph:

"Mr. Kerry has given a clearer choice to those Americans who oppose the Iraq intervention, and he has prodded Mr. Bush into a more forceful commitment to seeing it through. That polarization will suit many on both sides. But for those of us in the center -- who supported the invasion, as we did, but have been dismayed by the Bush administration's performance; or who doubted the wisdom of the war, but now believe it essential that the United States not be driven out of Iraq by insurgents and terrorists -- the choice has become more difficult."
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:48 AM
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8. Thank you!
"Center" my ass! Only the right would find the choice "difficult" given the Iraq question.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:53 AM
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9. My thought: those who were blind enough to support the invasion
are unlikely to develop logical thinking skills at this late date.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:54 AM
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11. Bush 'is better at setting goals for Iraq'!?
Preposterous. Stunningly stubborn and willful denial.
They state quite clearly Bush refuses to recognize Iraq's true state of chaos, then go on to make this contradictory conclusion.

CLUE: You need to meet short term goals before you reach the long term ones.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:00 AM
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13. Its actually a pretty clear statement of where this race is.
If Kerry can't gain the trust of these people in the center, we can still loose this race, even with the incompetence of the current administration.

I am not saying I agree with the Washington Post, I am just saying that they are speaking for a significant number of voters here.

In the debate, Kerry must come out strong in support of the troops and the mission to finish the job. The debate about how to affect Democracy in the ME is over for now. It will have to wait until we have given our best effort to fix this mess.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:02 AM
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14. I wouldn't wipe my behind
with this ridiculous excuse for a paper.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 11:17 AM
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15. More "broader struggle against terrorism" nonsense
War is war. You make it, it comes back to you. :eyes:
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