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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:50 PM
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The "I'm still not sure whom I'm going to vote for" crowd
Who are these imbeciles!

Or how about the "Well, I definitely don't like the direction Bush has taken the country, but I'm voting for him anyway" crowd?

?????????

Did you ever think this country would reach this level of mass idiocy?
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:52 PM
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1. No and I can say no more as I am gobsmack dumbfounded.
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:54 PM
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2. They Relish the Attention
In a highly-polarized election, the undecided voter is a rare commodity. If they actually committed to a candidate, they would be another face in the crowd. By playing coy - refusing to commit - they draw 'suitors' from both sides. It's all rather old-fashioned schoolgirlish to me.
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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:55 PM
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4. Man, I really hadn't considered that
That's some sick stuff.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:58 PM
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20. They are the same people who start shit in the store line they are needy.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:55 PM
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3. I guess it's easier to go down
with the flush than to swim for safety.
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:57 PM
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5. Well, Bush talks real tough, but Kerry looks kind of cool when he's
playing hockey and what-not, so it's still up in the air. I guess I'm just going to wait until closer to the election, and then see what the polls say before I decide.

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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:57 PM
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6. Oh by the way...
Psych!

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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:58 PM
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7. Nope.
I don't understand it. Everyone knows * sucks. Kerry's the unknown here, and who knows, he might not be successful. But * has had his chance, we know that he's tanked...let's at least give the new guy a shot.
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:58 PM
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8. Country very stupid and some believing tv ads n/t
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:06 PM
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9. They're idiots. It's THAT simple.
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 08:08 PM by WillW
They don't seem smart enought to take a side. They think that the whole of political thought ranges between middle of the road dem and middle of the road repuke and they pretend to make 'informed' and balanced decisions based on their lack of committment to one side or another.

As Jim Hightower said, "there's nothing in the middle of the road but yellow lines and armadillos..." I have no patience for these people.

"which side are you on, boys?"
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:11 PM
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10. Hell, I don't like Kerry, but I'll vote for him this time.
And I'm a hardcore anti-imperialist!

The way I see it is like this: either we go over the cliff with b*sh, or grab the branch as we go over by voting for Kerry.

I'd rather have a chance to scramble back up over the edge than willingly jump into the chasm with a fascist.

And since Nader takes money from anti-gay groups, he can fuck off for all I care.

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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:13 PM
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11. Well said. NT
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:15 PM
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12. I'm dealing with one right now ...
I have so far kept my cool because she lives in a swing state, and I'm trying very hard to convince her. If I said what I think, I'd completely turn her off.

Exchanging e-mail with her has been instructive, though, as to one of our biggest problems: self-involved, willful ignorance. She knows being in Iraq is a "bad thing," as she puts it, but she doesn't think Kerry will do anything about it. She knows Bush's tax cuts were stupid, but she doesn't think Kerry will do anything about it. She hates the idea of the Patriot Act and all it implies, but she doesn't think Kerry will do anything about it.

So, on each point, I offer her information about what Kerry has proposed to "do about it," and I further point out the screwy logic of defaulting to the person who got us into these messes in the first place. That is, she currently plans to vote for Bush because she isn't convinced that Kerry will do anything to fix his mistakes. It just makes no sense to me.

But, getting deeper into it, I've figured out what the main problem is. She just doesn't care about all that. That's the reason she doesn't know the differences between the candidates. She reads enough she could be aware if she wanted to be, but when she reads, she's only looking for one thing: How will she personally be affected. She's worried about her job, which various people have tried to eliminate ever since Clinton's last term. She doesn't know Kerry's position on it, knows Gore's position was no different that Bush's during the campaign, and assumes Kerry's will be the same. So, since Bush has not seriously gone after her job, she figures she's safe staying with the same horse.

Dumb.

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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:22 PM
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13. That's a sad scene.
FYI to the subject of your email:

BUSH IS DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY!!!! WAKE THE F**K UP!

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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:29 PM
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14. It's getting to that point ...

But if I said that now, she'd just stop listening. I've forced her to admit a lot of things that she wouldn't have admitted months ago -- this has been an ongoing thing -- and that's progress. It at least gives her minds something to chew on.

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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:38 PM
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15. You're doing the right thing. NT
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:39 PM
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17. Go ahead and hate me.................
I am going to speak my mind: People this stupid shouldn't be (u)allowed to vote(/u).
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:58 PM
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19. No hate ...
But, I'm not sure that's a valid answer to the problem. I'd personally rather deal with a hundred people like her than one person who has set their mind to vote for Bush because he's "likable" or whatever. The latter is true stupidity because the "likability" factor is based entirely on that. Those who find Bush "likable" tend to have inferiority complexes and react negatively to obviously intelligent people. To these people being stupid makes Bush likable.

She is at least listening and doesn't consider Bush likable at all.

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Raya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:38 PM
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16. A lot of folk I meet STILL DON'T KNOW THE FUCK ABOUT KERRY.
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 08:39 PM by Raya
That's the way it is and will be unless we change it by Nov. 2.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:02 PM
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21. If they had known * would they have voted for him? Did they know him?
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:55 PM
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18. They're above it all, you see
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:03 PM
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22. Make them watch this...
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