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indyjones1938 Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:02 PM
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How Will the Media Spin the Edwards-Cheney Debate?
Edited on Sat Sep-25-04 10:19 PM by indyjones1938
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indyjones1938 Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:07 PM
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1. Kick
:kick: :kick: :kick:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:18 PM
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2. my guess - Cheney showed his experience
Cheney showed his experience and how he was presidential material, despite still claiming Iraq-Al Qaeda ties and that he has no link to Halliburton anymore and coming across as stiff and not very healthy. Edwards will be hammered as indecisive & unpresidential for a momentary pause in a rebuttal.

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Carolinian Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:21 PM
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3. It's a seated debate. UGH! Edwards is at his best when he can move
around and use his body language. The conservative media will paint him as "inexperienced, light, ineffective, lacking in foreign policy knowledge, didn't live up to Democrats hopes."
They will score it for The Penguin even though he will be lying his ass off.
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indyjones1938 Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:35 PM
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5. Sad
Cheney wouldn't agree to the debate unless both men would be seated. He knows that in a standing debates, Edwards would slice him and dice him.

But I think Edwards has some surprises up his sleeve.

A month before 9/11, while Bush/Cheney were still dreaming blissfully about Star Wars missle defense, Edwards wrote an editorial about the growing threat of foreign terrorism in the United States. He submitted it to the NYT and other major papers -- none of them would print it. In the end a small local newspaper in NC agreed to run it.

This was around the same time that Bush got the PDB saying "bin Laden determined to strike in the U.S."

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Carolinian Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:52 PM
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8. I would love to read the editorial you mentioned. I am a huge Edwards
fan. You're right, Edwards can pull off some surprising wins. That's why he's called The Silk Assassin. I just hope he has adequate rest and preparation time. TwoFace and The Penguin have been working on it for a couple of weeks now.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:24 PM
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4. We don t know the spin, because we don t know
what will happen.

It will be very interesting; Cheney, in govt since the 70s with loads of experience vs the younger, more photogenic Senator from N.C.

Will the debate stress wonkish details or personality & attractiveness?

Will Cheney appear as the Darth Vader of Politics, or the kindly grandfather who is having a discussion with his less experienced counterpart?

Do not underestimate Cheney.

I am really looking forward to it.
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indyjones1938 Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:45 PM
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7. grandfather?
Cheney the "kindly grandfather?" Sorry, you've got to be kidding. He's not kindly nor is he grandfatherlike. He's creepy, the slime of the earth, and I trust him less than I trust Bush (which is saying a lot).

Cheney's "experience" in government is nothing you'd want on your resume. He's got more skeletons in his closet than a cemetery.

Edwards knows that Cheney is going to put on a kindly, happy face for the debate. That's why I hope he puts Cheney on the defensive.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:04 PM
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10. You know what Cheney is, & I know what Cheney is
but what I said was: Don t underestimate him.

He made Lieberman look like a jerk.

Cheneys experience in govt: several terms in Congress, with leadership position; youngest chief of staff ever, to a President; Sec of Defense; Veep for 4 yrs.

You may detest the man, but his govt resume is quite impressive.
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indyjones1938 Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:16 PM
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12. nt
Lieberman made himself look like a jerk. He basically agreed with Cheney on all the issues, and refused to go on the offensive. It was more like two friends chatting over coffee than a debate.

I think Edwards is more the aggressive type.

And Cheney's "experience" in govt. has been tainted through and through by scandal. Halliburton, Iran Contra, Iraq and the Kurds, Iran anf the Ayatollahs, PNAC and the Neocons, you name it. In fact Cheney was one of the original members of PNAC in 1997-98 along w/Kristol, Wolfie, Rummy, Cohen and Perle. Talk about a skeleton in the closet.

Edwards' more limited govt. experience has nonetheless been infitinely more productive. Patients' Bill of Rights, health care, fighting bioterrorism, environment, supporting blue collar workers, on and on.

I prefer quality over quantity. I just hope the American sheeple do too.



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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:36 PM
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6. And who will do the critique?
Liebermann? Devine? Dole? Gawd forbid.

Iffel is the moderator. Should a woman who is best friends with a member of the regime be the moderator?

Cheney as evil as he is, has a very calm and soothing voice. Lots of gravitas.

On this one, there is nothing to do but trust the force.

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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:00 PM
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9. Cheeeney wanted a seated debate
so he could do that thing with his hands where he makes farting noises. Watch. I guar-an-tee it.

With that "gravitas" the media will claim that Cheeeney was in charge and that Edwards was a lightweight. I don't believe that, I just think that's what the media will say?

Gwen is a cookin' buddy of Condo-sleazy-liar.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:08 PM
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11. For all the Edwards experts here
I have a question:

When Edwards practiced law, did he do so in North Carolina only, or did he try cases around the country?
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indyjones1938 Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:25 PM
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13. record
Here's a link to his complete legal record.

http://news.findlaw.com/newsmakers/john.edwards.profile.html
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:38 PM
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14. Thank you for the link
but to access the records, you have to register.

The only cases described were in NC, although I see he is licensed also in Tennessee.
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