GEEZE! Dump Trippi! he gave THREE plugs for Drudge! And, he said:

[KoKo]

"the Repugs know how to Blog better...been doing it better for years and Dems are caught playing "catch up."

Heard on Tweety (Matthews) just now!

I was a Dean/Kucinich supporter now working for Kerry. Trippi embarrased me.

Are all you "techie Wonks" Repugs? That's what he seemed to say. Hey..I'm a total NON TECHIE and someone that with my math skills shouldn't even be able to log on to the internet..

But, I'm a "Liberal Arts Major" who couldn't do math but have managed to be 8 years on the Internet without viruses or whatever the hell bugs folks out there, because I know where to go for advice.

Trippi is being paid and is spouting stuff....I hate to see this. Makes us Dems look bad...DUMP TRIPPI and TWEETY...

I don't watch "tweet" but got suckered because it was Friday and I'd been off the cables, etc for days..I was just trying to see the spin...
Spin is :puke:

On Edit: Dean and Kucinich would have done better to avoid folks like Trippi if this is the way he's turned out...I know..he's got little mouths to feed and when Dean went down he had to bring in some coins to fee them..but still...what a turncoat! He did the greatest Internet Donation Campaign for Dems in history and now is "pumping/plugging DRUDGE???? Ops for hire these guys and throw Carville/Begala into that, too...Hey Bud...it's Business!

[leftchick]

1. Now KoKo.....

If we knew how to "dump" someone from our party, don't you like old Zell wouldn't still have a "D" next to his name? :)

[buycitgo]

4. Trippi is either an IDIOT, or a mole

I saw that, and clicked as soon as he talked about the bloggers' ability to get their message to the MSM

gee, could that be because the MSM ONLY listens to the RW bloggers?

huh?

I argued with him on a radio show about just this subject: media bias toward the left, and that DEAN got GORED by the media.

he didn't agree!

what a DICK

[KoKo]

43. LOL's you make a good point! No "DeLay's and Gingrich's" in our Party...

making one heel to the whip...Maybe a good thing..hope it is. :D

[Zorbet55]

50. Trippi is just plain dumb

or naive.

[Cha]

2. I guess trippi doesn't know about DU!

Jeez, we finally get a dem on tweetyturd and it turns out to be a blowhard who doesn't know what's up!

[KoKo]

5. Zidzi .....I edited more with more rant ...please go back and check out

my hopping mad post for the full glory rant...On Edit:

Frothing at the mouth...yes...I need a vacation..but where do I go...my beaches are all "hurricane invaded."

[Cha]

39. Yeah, sad ..also..

what madfloridian said..he's been doing a lot of this.

The Dean campaign brought in someone else to be in charge and help with growing pains and trippi could have stayed on in another capacity but chose to leave.

Also..it was reported that when trippi was in charge that the ads were just terrible and it was trippi's ad company that made a lot of money but didn't deliver the real goods.

Correct me, anyone if I'm wrong on this. I think it's true, though.

[LTR]

3. Does anyone ever talk about conservative blogs?

Conservative blogs are very obscure. I mean, does anyone ever quote from Little Green Footballs? Andrew Sullivan does the talk shows, but he's had a long career in the media.

Meanwhile, Kos and Wonkette often make the headlines and appear on TV and the papers. And they're pure bloggers.

[KoKo]

24. Excuse me...Trippi was saying the Repugs are better at blogs than Dems!

When you and I know the really great blogs who get into detail are all DEM! Not those Repug Megaphones. Did you read my post? :shrug;

[LTR]

27. Well, that's what I meant

Directed toward Trippi.

Now I know why Dean lost. This guy sucks.

[KoKo]

30. He had to have money to feed the kids when Dean lost...Dean at least

has kept going...Trippi...well, he's feeding his kids...but I do understand.

[Zhade]

38. Fuck DETAIL, how about ACCURACY?

95% (I'm being generous) of conservative blogs LIE about basic facts.

There's no way they can be better, because they're not honest. Trippi just gave them his "specialist" imprimatur!

Fucking idiot.

[librechik]

44. the only blogs the "mainstream media" countenance

are RW blogs: Kausfiles, NRO, Andy Sullivan, Lucianne. They cut the liberals off, just like everything else.

That doesn't mean they're better. They're just allowed, unlike us outlaws!

[madfloridian]

6. Trippi has been doing this ever since the campaign.

Are you just noticing? Dean has kept his mouth shut about Trippi while Trippi makes money off the connection to the campaign.

He is very sly.

[KoKo]

13. Yes...I missed it...I try not to watch Cables..but tune in a few minutes

a week...whenever I do...I get crazy...hence my post...

[KoKo]

7. For you who posted early...there's additional rant on my post clarifying

why I'm pissed a "Mighty Joe Trippi" who did so well and now acts as an "observer." I understand about his starving kids...I do..Go back and see my additional comments to clarify why I'm so PISSED AT HIM!

[unfrigginreal]

8. Another hasbeen...

following in the footsteps of Pat Caddell.

[bush equals idiot]

9. Most of them are poor.

I don't like any of his spokespeople they have on TV. Tad Devine looks like a man who's about to cry and talks way too fast. That black woman on CNN is as bland as you can get. They're all poor. None of them know how to devastate their opposition or energize people.

He needs some more real fire throwers to be talking for him like Carville and McAuliffe.

[smiley_glad_hands]

48. Trippi doesn't work for Kerry.

He is a freelancer now.

[eyesroll]

10. For better or for worse -- Drudge has influence.

I'm as left as they come, and if I was interviewed about "influential people on the Internet," I'd mention Drudge. Sorry.

People who run campaigns are paid to do so -- remember that. They're not paid to be loyal to a party. Most are by default, but it's generally not in their contract that they have to adhere to the party line into the everafter.

That said -- I have no idea what Trippi actually said, as I didn't watch, so I can't really comment as to whether this interview makes him dump-worthy or not. Is there a transcript somewhere?

[madfloridian]

11. He has written a book.

I gather it seems to be so complimentary to Dean supporters, but it is really not at all. He is making money off Dean's campaign, as Dean is trying to work his new organization.

[eyesroll]

15. And why shouldn't he?

Not everyone in the world -- or on our side -- is altruistic. Plenty of people are out there to make money.

I was a Dean supporter (the WI Dem voter database even lists me as "Dean donor") -- but I knew that Trippi was a mercenary. He did great things. He made money off of it. (I have a friend who does the same thing for smaller campaigns). So be it.

He's an arrogant SOB, sure, but I never expected him to be any more.

[madfloridian]

17. He can do whatever he wishes. He has lost the respect of many.

People are supposedly free here in America to profit from whatever they wish. Trippi can do that, but in the process he has made himself into a suspect character. Steve Grossman hurt himself as well, though he had ever right to defect just before WI. He hurt himself as well as Dean.

You know what? There is no loyalty in the party or to the party or any other way right now.

This was the anything goes primary, and it is like that in our country now. Everything is ok, anything goes, no loyalty, no propriety.

[KoKo]

19. Sigh.....Let's bring back some "altruism" here...please. Is everything

about money? About writing books and appearing on CNN/MSNBC to make money?

The whole fucking country seems to be about money and how to get it. What about the QUALITY OF OUR LIFE ON THIS PLANET?

How much clothes does one need, Restaurant Dinners Out, Expensive Vacations..cars, jewelry and McMansions does one need before one finds out: "IT's HOLLOW!" Where is the connection with your fellow humankind? :shrug: How MUCH IS TOO MUCH?

[eyesroll]

20. I'm just saying -- he didn't exactly present himself as an altruist when

he started.

If Dennis Kucinich starts singing the praises of Wal-Mart for cash, I'll be worried.

[KoKo]

26. JFC! If I ever hear Kucinch doing that...well....I'm at a loss for words,

but I'm making plans to get out of this freakin' consumer oriented, paid for Campaign Op shills world...It's not why my ancestors came here!

[Wind Dancer]

28. Well said!

I've been bitching about this for a long time and don't understand why people don't feel passionate about what the HELL is happening to our country!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is it going to take? It's a me, me, me society with too many opportunists.

[KoKo]

16. Well...we need a DRUDGE....I'm amazed that his lies are so promoted...

and yeah way back in the early days of the Internet I had him "Bookmarked" and still do...but I rarely hit on him finding that the "mainstream" and "DU'ers" report what he says with such regularity I don't need to hit the link.

He's a "Stovepipe" from Rove...I don't trash DU'ers from hitting his site because it's the best way of keeping in touch with the "Meme" of the day...the Repug Talking Points....but when Joe Trippi gives Drudge three FREE PLUGS I gotta BARF...I don't mention Drudge to anyone...why should Trippi do it? Why send more viewers to Drudge Site unless it's to pump up Trippi's value with the Repugs.

What's next? Trippi gets a contract with FAUX? All in the name of feeding those "hungry little mouths at home?" Hey...we all got "hungry mouths" at home...but WHERE ARE HIS PRINCIPLES?

Did he already spend all the money Dean and US, the "Individual Donors" gave him out of our own little hungry mouths to WIN WITH DEAN?

ARGHHHHHHHHHH these Campaign Ops for Hire...if only we could do without them...

[eyesroll]

18. We do need a Drudge -- that's true.

The thing is with Drudge -- he's hit or miss. When he hits, he hits perfectly (c.f. Monica). When he misses -- it's way off (c.f. Kerry's "affair" with a woman who actually had a relationship with someone else altogether...). I do wonder if we'd get anything resembling media-jumping (i,e, "This just in....DrudgeReport.com is reporting that Bush eats puppies; we have no independent confirmation anyone but what the hell") if we had a Drudge.

I know RawStory is trying.

[sundancekid]

12. if we knew Trippi needed to whore out w/clueless comments, we could

have found him a better bordello in which to put "food on his family"... what a disgusting disappointment he's turned out to be ... I mean the man is TOTALLY clueless on what he's talking about (like he thinks the K/E campaign doesn't look at bloggers/blog comments) ... geez!

edit: fixed one too many grammatical errors

[Onlooker]

14. Trippi's right, but we should be proud

The Democratic Party really does do a better job of representing the poor and lower middle class than the Republican Party. The Democrats get a lot of support form people who have been victims of a bad economy, bad foreign policy, bad environmental policy, etc. Many of these people probably do not have computers or are not extremely skilled at computers. The Republicans do attract more middle-class suburbanites who have fast computers and time on their hands. I don't think Trippi's comments are wrong, though they may not be politically wise.

[billbuckhead]

21. They usually don't invite Randy Rhodes back

The corporate media won't invite Dems back unless they're compliant or there's an ulterior motive like to make Michael Moore look unfair or to ask Hillary if she hopes Kerry will lose.

[faithnotgreed]

22. my take on trippi is

he seems like a decent guy. he seems a bit unemotional or pragmatic i guess though thats survival in politics im sure. i heard him on msnbc talk about kerrys dnc speech as "one of the best speeches ive heard in a long time"

working for dean, he believes in the power of grassroots etc but he does sometimes seem to have a touch of the nader in him
in that he will say some things pro the other side (i dont think he sees himself as a dem representative, even though we need all we can get esp on tv!)

but what i also really get from him is that he loves that he was part of the dean internet explosion. he loves to be part of the grassroots change through technology. given his interest and his lack of passion i see him more as the tech geek we knew in high school.
and finally the time has come around for political nerds like him. he is now in demand (as an extension of his part of deans popularity and getting his message out through online)

i think this has clearly re energized him. i think if we can stop seeing him as a representative for the democrats, it will help. he seems an ok guy who is focused on being part of change. unfortunately we have had too many milquetoast dems on tv, though thankfully with lockhart etc this is changing for the better
and im sure it doesnt hurt that this new gig (tv, book, blog etc) has provided some nice payoff for him and his family

trippi has been behind the political scenes for some time so ill give him the benefit of the doubt. i think finally he believes he has seen what can really work because it worked so well for dean.
unfortunately, his appearances and plugging blogs as he likes to do, dont always intersect with what we need right now (in the media) to change the country THIS election.

fwiw....

[KoKo]

29. I respect your "take on Trippi." If I hadn't been around the bend too

much with these political campaigns I'd be with you. I understand...just go with my rant from seeing too much of it through the years...

We all gotta have some hero's and I don't want to disillusion folks, too much...but just keep your eyes and ears open for spin and individual motivation, and be aware that some folks want to call it out...doesn't mean we are undermining things...just pointing out that things aren't always what they seem and wanting to make it better..for the future.

Trippi did the first Internet Campaign. He will go down in history for getting so much support by using "new" technology. I don't excuse him for "now" but praise him for what he DID try to do.

I just hate the Campaign Op business that's so scurrilous it sucks them all into it..that's all.

[faithnotgreed]

31. oh. i totally understand ya koko.

i know this is all out. this is for all the marbles and we need the true blue truth tellers and not all the people on the side who have one thing or another they want to sell or push. or especially those who arent pushing hard to expose bush for his many and constant lies.

lets just hear some truth and not all the screeching politics has become. im with ya. and im also with ya because this election is nearing and were all getting a little frazzled.

and i also recognize that you were the one feeling so "tired" that you need to leave the country no matter how the election goes. so my response was totally coming from giving my 2 cents but it was also fully recognizing that theres a reason i dont watch tv!

take care koko. and if i may just say (with a big smile),, if youre going to turn the tv back on, i highly recommend that you dont start with hardball!

maybe try cbs or olbermann or pbs newshour for starters!!

and might i add: i cant believe that drudge is referred to at all. its national enquirer level and should be treated as such. i dont care what kind of technology trippi and others are interested in... they really are juvenile in their admiration sometimes

[KoKo]

33. I take your kind words in the way they were intended...I'm still making

plans...it so overwhelming...but thanks for seeing what I try to say...:-)'s

[faithnotgreed]

35. i cant imagine. it must be hitting you quite hard

and of course you have all this building up. and tv definitely doesnt help!

strictly for me, im incredibly thankful i give it all up. i share my story only so that you understand i dont dismiss ANYTHING that youre saying. in fact i relate completely.

for quite some time i was in utter confusion about the human race. and anger or frustration was getting the best of me. i was working hard at a nonprofit and trying to work for change and hold people to some standard of decency. i valued integrity above all else so you can imagine how that was going, im sure....

like you, i have no understanding as to why people are so greedy and self centered. this strong feeling (and also feeling increasingly like i was from another planet) for me was leading to my physical and emotional meltdown.

one day i did meltdown (physically). since then it has been a long but hopefully steady process of accepting that im not the one in charge of the world. i dont have the strength or the intelligence or the power to be in charge of anyone elses behavior but my own. i only learned this through giving it all up to God.
so for me, this campaign and all that goes with it is a perfect example of how i used to respond as to how i have HAD to learn to respond now. my health was literally at stake. im not perfectly healthy but i give that up too. i know im trying to let go of the externals and the temporary because its not mine to rule.

anyway. hope that was ok to share. and please take care of yourself. please do what you need for your peace of mind. it can be very hard to find so i understand youre considering the options to find some place of sanity.

let me know where that is if you find it! take care

[KoKo]

42. Thanks for sharing that. I don't want to get to that point. I try to

keep steady...which for me means a pull back if I can't go foward at some point without great cost to my sanity and health. I appreciate that you gave up much to really work harder than I have for your principles. I have to pull back before I really feel that despair and it pulls me under. Keeping an even keel is hard in this and disillusionment is everywhere waiting to pull us under.

I think accepting what one can do and undo is important. Whatever you did made a difference all the things we try to do..somewhere make a difference small efforts and large.. imho..even if we get dragged under to pull ourselves up makes a difference.
What a crazy time to live in...why were we chosen...I read something last year, that said "all of those born and living today were chosen to live in these times for a reason." I think about that alot. We must be here to be the "counter-force."

And, I just wanted to have fun and enjoy the world around me..like the rest of us maybe..I didn't ask for much more...like many of us. Must have something in us that makes us do this, though..that's different. We are called. I wonder if Ken Lay and the rest feel the same. Perhaps they do. :shrug;

:-)'s thanks.

[madfloridian]

32. He is not accepting his share of the blame.

He refers to Dean supporters as ragtags and implies we are all so young and idealist.....and faults us for it. I am no longer young, but I hope I never lose my idealism.

[KoKo]

34. What's sad is the "Media Myth" that Dean supporters were all kids...they

weren't. But, I think you replied to one of my other posts about that..Standing outside NC Primary booths and having folks who seemed in their 60's and 70's come up to our tables (set outside for Dean on one side and Kucinich next) and ask us what they could do. And they ALL had E-Mail addresses which they use to keep in touch with their kids.

When I was down at our County Dem Headquarters the other night..I saw two of them...who never gave up and found their way to volunteer on their own. They were both "transplants from the NE to NC." They were working for Kerry after stopping by the Dean table...at our very late Dem Primary...

[bringbackfdr]

23. Memo to Trippi

Your guy lost. Get over it and be a good Democrat, unless your grand plan is to run the Nader 2008, 2012 and 2016 campaigns.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

25. Trippi's a fucking idiot (and a slob)

nt

[Thrill]

36. I'm getting sick of Trippi

.

[Democat]

37. What an idiot

The media reports right wing blog rumors as facts and ignores left or unbiased blog facts.

Trippi is an idiot if he said that on TV.

[BootinUp]

40. Well if he called the drudge site a "blog"

Then he just demonstrated his lack of knowledge on the subject. ;)

[fujiyama]

41. I was thinkin the same myself

Drudge isn't as much a blog, as it is a rumor mill.

I've never really trusted Trippi. Sure, he had some good ideas during the campaign, but he made some very bad decisions as well.

Now he seems especially eager to be part of the media pundit/talking head/beltway crowd.

[Julien Sorel]

45. It's the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

Great money, the job is fairly easy, few responsibilities, and you get to spout your opinion nearly every day. You don't have to pitch ads to clients, and you can even tell yourself you're making a bigger impact doing that than you would be running a campaign somewhere. Who wouldn't want that job?

[napi21]

46. When I first heard Trippi was running Deans campaign, I shuddered.

He's been a campaign advisor for years, but as far as I know, has never had a winner! He was the lead strategist for McGovern...what's that tell ya?

I think he got lucky to get a job and is doing what he thinks will keep it for HIM!

[John_H]

47. Show former dem strategists the MONEY, baybeeeeeeee!!!

Donna, Joey, DeeDee. Then they'd be out there fighting for John Kerry!!!!! Fighting, I say!!!!!

[bklyncowgirl]

49. My take on Trippi--Republicans do media better.

We know that.

The right wing media machine has been developing for years while the left has naively assumed that mainstream media will proclaim the truth.

Drudge has been a major part of this right wing media for years. Now right wing blogs like Free Republic are also now a part of that media. Drudge, at least in the case of the Rather affair, was a conduit between the RW blogs and the RW broadcast media. In this case, a GOP operative (Buckhead) got things rolling on Free Republic. It got into Drudge (no doubt with a little push from Rove)and was quickly jumped on by the RW media.

Here's how it worked in my opinion.

Rove..?..RW Blogs---Drudge---RW Talk Shows---Fox---CNN, MSNBC etc.

What I'm saying is that if there wasn't an established right wing broadcast media of guys like Limbaugh and Hannity willing to fill the airways with poison and a RW broadcast network like Fox to give them credibility, the Right wing blogs would have about as much influence or lack thereof in the greater scheme of things as the left wing blogs.

I'm not knocking bloggers many of whom do terrific work. I think Trippi's wrong here. Where the breakdown is in my opinion is that we don't have the ability to get these sort of ideas into the more mainstream media and in that way the decks are stacked against us.

[formernaderite]

51. The bloggers of old weren't republicans...but they were....

...by and large Libertarians. It's true that some Libertarians will vote repub, but others vote democrat or Green party. For the most part they're like my wife, who votes for the Libertarian candidate when she feels like it.