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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 05:21 PM
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Poll question: Of The People Who Won't Vote For Kerry, Who Do You Respect The Least ???
Just curious.

:shrug:
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 05:22 PM
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1. Anyone still voting for Nader is contemptuous.
Of course, that's just my opinion.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 05:23 PM
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2. second one
Why? because they are ignorant enough to believe that Kerry is exactly like Bush, and don't bother studying up the truth and they throw stupid reasons at Kerry, like "Skull and Bones!", "He's wealthy", etc. Now I think I probably dislike the Bush voters more but as far as respect goes, I have least vote Naderites.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 05:30 PM
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3. hard decision
probably Bush because we all know how horrid he is

but Nader is an enabler in this case

so I'd have to say Nader
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 05:38 PM
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5. It Was Tough For Me Too, But I Voted Nader As Well !!!
Talk about voting against your own self interests!?!?!

:shrug:
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 12:32 PM
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47. Anyone who votes for a candidate based on just one issue.
For example, Bush is against abortion. So what? Has he done anything about it in the last 4 years?

Bush cut taxes. So what? He is spending like there is no tomorrow. Sure, the government took less of our money last year. But, look at what it has cost us...and not just in dollars.

Bush is tough on terror. So what? His policies are the reason that Al Queda and other groups are more spread out and dangerous than ever before.

And on, and on, and on...
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 05:37 PM
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4. All of the above.
Anyone who can't see the contrast and the importance in this election disgusts me.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 11:20 PM
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28. Good answer. and I can't even vote in this poll it is all so disgusting.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 05:45 PM
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6. Bu$h voters are actively and knowingly working against democracy.
They are actively destroying our country.

If they vote, it is their responsibility to be informed.

If they are informed, then they know that Bu$h is a dangerous fascist.

So I have nothing but absolute contempt for these enemies of my country. They are a direct threat to my freedom and my well-being.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 05:47 PM
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7. Any Democrat who won't vote for Kerry
You know, the ones who whine that Kerry isn't quite good enough. Hasn't articulated a strong position. Hasn't captured the person's imagination/passion. Etc., etc., etc.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 05:49 PM
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8. People who will vote for Bush, no question. n/t
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 05:57 PM
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9. No matter how wrong-headed and stupid I think people who are going
to vote for Little Hitler and Nader, the people that really disgust me are to ones that don't vote at all. I tried to talk to this one woman at work who is always bitching how she can't afford this, and doesn't have that, and her kids need this, blah, blah, blah. So I thought that she would be a good candidate for persuasion.

She cut me off cold. She said "I never talk politics with anyone, ever. And I don't vote. I don't pay attention to that stuff and I don't want to hear about it."

So I just said 'than you deserve what you get' and walked inside just furious.

I have never spoken to the whiney stupid cow again. And I don't give a damn if anyone thinks I'm wrong for calling her that. Tuff shit. If you heard her complain all the time like I have, about not having money, about working as a temp, about not being able to afford lunches at school for her kids, etc., and then to say what she did, I really thing she was owed an ass whipping.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:04 PM
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13. I absolutely agree
At the very least, the people who are voting for Bush and Nader are getting off their sorry asses and using that right to vote.

I despise people like the one you described. And I think "whiney stupid cow" is mild!

:headbang:
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 05:58 PM
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10. Nader voters and nonvoters, on the whole, are not evil.
Most Bush voters are.

Respect? I "respect" all of their ability to fuck my country good and hard, if that's what you mean by respect.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 07:30 PM
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21. That's not true
Most Bush supporters I've met are sorely misinformed and uneducated. If that's what we say is "evil", we're no better than Bush.

Nader supporters, on the other hand, are smart enough to know better. They KNOW that the only person who can defeat Bush is Kerry. If they don't vote for Kerry, they have helped Bush win.
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 02:35 PM
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29. We have different definitions of evil
"Evil" to me is the Germans/Americans standing by, happy to be "misinformed and uneducated", as Hitler/Bush conducts his genocides with their love and tacit approval. Please, no one is that stupid. People who vote Bush know what they're voting for, and do it anyway because they don't expect to be at the wrong end of the big guns. Stupid, EVIL them!

Nader voters, on the other hand, generally stand for good things: conservation, public health, corporate and government reform, etc. I can see how good people can vote for Nader, even if Nader himself is obviously bought and sold and also EVIL.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:57 PM
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31. Whatever.
Nader voters are happy to elect Bush. They're no more "good people" than Bush's corporate cronies are "good" people.

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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 06:23 PM
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32. Hey, I'm not pro-Nader-voter
But saying they are worse than Bush supporters? Give me a break. Are Nader voters racist? Are they sexist, violent, sadistic homophobes?
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 05:59 PM
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11. The people who are hurt the most by Bush policy
but can't even muster up a little self-interested intelligence.

The people are brainless (because they seek out pain), heartless (because they are misery, and they want company), and beyond any hope (because if you plan to vote for the guy who is giving it to up the #ss--without even giving you a jar of KY or simple "thank you"--then you deserve everything you get).

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:03 PM
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12. Anyone who won't vote
is lame in my book. This is our RIGHT and should be exercised either way. As my dad says, "If you don't vote, you're not entitled to an opinion."
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:10 PM
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14. hard choice
between bush voters and nader voters, but the nader voters finally got the nod from me. bush voters are just that, nuff said. nader voters are supposed to know better.

the other category - those that don't vote, they're baddies too ... that is, if they're dems that are too lazy to get off their asses to help save us all. however, if they are pugs who cannot in good conscience vote for either bush or kerry, i have more respect for them if they DO stay home!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:43 PM
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17. I Guess For Me...
with Nader voters, it's like somebody from your own family stabbing you in the back. That's why I respect them the least.

I've never counted on staunch rePublicans to do the correct thing.

:shrug:
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 07:08 PM
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20. Exactly - The repukes never disappoint
Nader always does
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:12 PM
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15. Single-issue Bush voters
who know that his policies are disasterous, but Kerry would take away their gun/bible/fetus so they're voting for the bastid anyways.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:13 PM
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16. B**h only because he is the biggest sorryass excuse for a stupid human .
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:48 PM
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18. This was a really good question.
A soldier from my hometown was killed in Iraq this week. My friend was on the phone crying to me about how sad this is, and it is! It's tragic. Yet, she refuses to vote. I DO NOT understand that mind-set.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 07:01 PM
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19. Well...
I'm sorry to hear that, in so many ways.

If you feel this appropriate, hand her a voter registration form, and firmly, but lovingly, remind her that most soldiers are willing to sacrifice for our right to vote. She might just pick up the pen.

:shrug:
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 07:41 PM
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22. I have been trying for so long now.
She has a 17 year old. I don't know why I can't convince her to vote. I know she can't stand Shrub. This is agonizing.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 07:50 PM
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23. Tell Her, That HER Son Might Be Going To War (Drafted) If We...
don't put a stop to this crap!

She's gotta show some courage! And there is little time left to get registered.

:shrug:


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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 08:39 PM
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24. I'm going to see her next weekend at our college homecoming.
I will try to work on her some more. I have registration forms. We have until Oct. 4 in PA. Wish me luck!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 08:54 PM
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25. Good Luck, And Thank You !!!
:hi::yourock::hi:
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 09:00 PM
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26. The ones that really piss me off are those who say, "I don't care, I am
voting for him anyway"
Talk about irresponsible idiots. I usually walk away from those people shaking my head for the poor lost freedom. These people gladly give up the right to choose their vote because their daddy voted repuk. or the repuks support bans on the gays or abortion or some other phobia they have.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 11:03 PM
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27. Yep... The Second Grader Stubbornness Factor Blows My Mind Too !!!
They will be fiddling while America burns apparently!

:shrug:

BTW - My apologies to all Second Graders. You're STILL more mature than the assholes we are talking about here!
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 02:39 PM
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30. I would also truly say all of the above.
Bush voters because, well, they're either morons or criminally insane or seriously out of touch.

Nader voters because they're so hell-bent on their "message" that they can't see the forest for the trees.

People who don't vote get extra points for being lazy and spitting on the graves of everyone who fought and died for this country.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 06:31 PM
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33. Nader voters
Edited on Sat Sep-25-04 06:33 PM by fujiyama
and those that don't vote are in the same category. They seemingly don't want a say - so they either waste a vote, or waste their ability to vote.

Both are shameful and foolish and don't have any basis in reality.

The Bush supporters on the other hand, are either very deluded and frightened, are single issue voters, or are theocratic fascists like that freakish woman that was on the CSPAN call in show the other morning (I didn't see it but read what she had to say. Frightening).

All are worthy of contempt, but I'd have to ultimately go with the Bush voter (though I'd be tempted to go with the Nader/non voter). I don't understand how anyone can still actually SUPPORT what's going on now.

The reason I ultimately can't chose Nader voters is that they are an odd group. Some aren't really liberal either. Some are disgruntled republicans. But those Nader voters that live in relatively close states and ARE liberal are the biggest fools of all.

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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 06:34 PM
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34. Nader voters want the right things, their strategy for getting there sucks
In my view, of course. :)
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:07 PM
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36. How do you stay civil in this election?
I have always had my candidate, worked hard for them and believed in the process. I always felt comfortable with our political system because in the final analysis the winner, whether it is my person or not, is the one with the most votes and that is how the system works. I am having an extremely difficult time trying to maintain some type of civility to Bush supporters this year. I'm not just ticked off - I'm pissed, extremely pissed, at their total lack of patriotism all in the name of winning an election. They don't care they are destroying a wonderful country from within all in the quest for world domination and power.

The rights have always gone for the nasty to win an election. 1992 and 1996 saw attacks on Clinton that bordered on psychopathic in their hatred of Clinton by the GOP, the inane charges that were leveled at Gore in 2000 was just a continued downward spiral into vile tricks by the GOP. I still tried to believe in the system. But now, knowing what this country has been through for the last four years, the corruptness, the greed, the war, the environment. Does our system still work? Have we reached a critical point similar to the one that Jefferson, Washington, Adams, Franklin and all the rest reach in 1776? Washington and his rag tag army had no choice but to fight King George. Are we now at the same place with Dictator George the 43rd? Can we really sit by and have another four years of Bush should he win. Really?

I am the most non-violent, live and let live person around. Have always relied on the wisdom of our founding fathers to have set us on the right path. No guarantees we wouldn't have our share of rocky hard at times, disagreements galore but essentially the Constitution, Bill of Rights and the amendments would get us through most sticky wickets.

It is unbelievable but the same wise patriots who met in Philadelphia and drew up a vision of a free country which could not envision AK47s but, also, could not foresee the evilness that is rampant in the Republican party nowadays. We have a president that is trying to overthrown democracy and take us back 228 years.

I'm not conceding the election - far from it - but how do you face your family, friends, co-workers, neighbors who support this guy and not want to just rant at them about their stupidity and shortsightedness?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:48 PM
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39. Getting the right things?
Not only Nader voters are not getting the right thing, they are preventing everyone from getting there.
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:06 PM
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35. Nader voters
While Bush people are true to their values (as warped as they may be), anyone who would support a man whose mission is contrary to his values is truly insane. I honestly can't understand at all what could possibly be going through the minds of Nader supporters. Nader has no problems with the fact that he is being bankrolled by Bush-supporters. He is also exclusively targetting the battleground states; he is trying to get Bush elected.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:46 PM
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38. I feel the same way.
Bush voters might be brainwashed, but Nader voters are hypocrites.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:14 PM
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37. It has to be those who deliberately vote for Bush.
There simply is no valid reason to vote for the fucking bastard except one.... "I'm a fucking brainwashed zombie who believes everything FAUX News tells me. SIEG HEIL!!"

Anything that Republicans consider their "values" - they have to admit that Junior has been a colossal failure at ALL of them.

At least those who vote for Nader or other minor candidates can claim they are standing on principle (For all the good that will do them at Gitmo). A Republican who says that and votes for Bush is a LIAR.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:58 PM
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40. Since The Nader Voters Benefit Bush... I Choose The First Option...
and it covers BOTH categories.

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LeinesRed Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 08:01 PM
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41. I'm just tired of the excuses for not voting...
especially "I didn't like either of them"
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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 08:01 PM
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42. I have very little patience for non-voters who then bitch about issues.
Edited on Sat Sep-25-04 08:05 PM by lib4life
If you don't vote, then you can't complain. Peole shed their blood so that you could vote. Voting is more a right, it's a moral imperative.

On edit: In case this sounds harsh, I'm not talking about people who want to vote but can't (not old enough, can't reach polling places, etc). I'm taklking about those who don't vote, and then complain about the country.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 10:05 AM
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43. Proof positive that many are too stupid to see who the real enemy is.
:crazy:
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 10:13 AM
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44. Anyone who would vote
for the chimp is an idiot. I have no patience with idiot fools - the majority of whom are voting against their own self-interest. Plus, they are endangering the lives of their fellow citizens and further alienating the US from the rest of the world community. I despise chimp voters.

Non-voters are people who have no interest in the political process and don't think the outcome affects them. Would be great if everyone would take an interest and get informed, but it's not going to happen.
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 12:05 PM
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45. The three headed monster
Bush voters are essentially paranoid. They're paranoid that anything but a Bush presidency would mean that Osama would be gift-wrapped an atomic weapon. They're paranoid that anything but a Bush presidency will mean that Jesus is outlawed. They're paranoid that without guns, rapists and burglars will run rampant. They're paranoid that without vicious American internationalism, those weird foreigners from the Middle East, Africa, and Asia will not learn their place.

Nader voters are generally hypocritical. They denounce people like Kerry for taking a mere $600 000 over 15 years in special interest money (the average senator gets millions from PACs in one election), yet pat Nader on the back for letting the Oregon Family Council aid his campaign in that state. I've argued with a Naderite who has continually ignored evidence that Nader had anything with Republicans in places like Michigan, Oregon, etc., despite the facts. I also find Naderites wanting in accountability. Their candidate never has to face a hostile Congress and risk his ideas because he'll never win. All they have to do is cut down the Democratic president.

The non-voters is basically lazy. Politics takes at least a year or so to get the full grasp and they're unwilling to make that commitment. They're like people who think they're so cool because they don't care about anything. The sorry-ass excuse of bitching about the two-party system is the worst excuse of all, and a lame attempt at trying to put an intelligent spin on an idiotic premise. If the system's at fault, go vote for some other party. If all the non-voters did that, what do you think will happen?
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 12:21 PM
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46. people who will vote for Bush
I can respect the other choices with no caveats.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:09 PM
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48. One Last Kick From Me !!!
:kick:
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