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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 03:04 PM
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I'm afraid this abortion B/S is going to KILL health care
If someone told me Democrats would be fighting over abortion in a bill I would tell them they were crazy. INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 03:07 PM
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1. Since it's B/S, it should be taken out, right? n/t
Edited on Wed Nov-11-09 03:07 PM by JHB
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 03:08 PM
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2. +1
If it doesn't make any difference to current law, why did it have to go in?
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 03:08 PM
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3. I thought it already was not funded by government.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 03:09 PM
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4. It's not
Women's groups say federal subsidization of private policies and the public option isn't the same thing as federal funding.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 03:14 PM
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5. From what pro-choice Dems. in Congress have been saying, most who voted for the Stupak amendment
thought they were voting for a reinstatement of the Hyde amendment and after it's explained to those who voted for it, they'll be ok withOUT the Stupak amendment.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 03:21 PM
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6. I thought that was the whole idea
to kill it. Create a controversy where none exists. Include things in the certainty that nobody will vote in favor.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 03:23 PM
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7. Womens rights are NOT B.S.!!!
:grr:
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 03:43 PM
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8. Sadly enough, without the Stupak Stupidity
there probably wouldn't be any discussion of the OTHER reasons this bill sucks either.

Flush the whole fucking pile of shit, start over with HR 676, get a fucking CBO score, and then DARE anyone to make a reasonable argument against it.
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Dr Robert Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 04:17 PM
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9. some would kill healthcare reform in an attempt to subsidize abortion
just let the status quo stand.

we can deal with abortion on its own.

let's get HCR passed now.
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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 07:59 PM
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10. The Stupak amendment shouldn't be in there but it is, and now that it is, it shouldn't be allowed to
singularly kill HCR. I hope it is removed by the Senate or in Conference but if some
variation of it is still in the bill in an effort to get HCR passed, then it stays and
Congress will need to address it in a separate action.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:30 PM
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11. Cutting off our noses to spite our faces.. a Democratic Pasttime!!
Evidently, many on DU think that if we can't have everything exactly as we want it.. it's better to draw a line in the sand and take nothing at all. Idiotic if you ask me.

As a women, i'll happily take my healthcare for everything else.. and figure out a way to pay for my own abortion in the very unlikely event that I'd need one.

Because paying for an abortion once in a lifetime certainly beats paying for a mamaogram, pap, and other routine tests that I KNOW I'm going to need every year.

But, I guess i'm just silly like that.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:39 PM
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13. Stop making sense
That's not allowed here.

Don't feel alone. I agree.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-11-09 10:30 PM
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12. Dupe
Edited on Wed Nov-11-09 10:31 PM by RoadRage
Dupe
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 02:28 AM
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14. It'll work out.
We've come too far.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 07:10 AM
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15. A "Triggered" Anti-Abortion healthcare bill -- Mmmmm....how we've come so far
Edited on Thu Nov-12-09 07:11 AM by quantass
:sarcasm: -- It's too early to predict the final bill will end up being this way but if it does I am beginning to think it might be worth killing the bill for the sake of making things even clearer to the people that it is time to revolt and take to the streets since state leaders and the WH dont give a damn what you want.
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