Parlock denies it was his son who ripped the sign

[quaoar]

Malkin is trying desperately to replace Ann Coulter.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/000535.htm

THE LEFT IS DESPERATE FOR A HOAX
By Michelle Malkin · September 17, 2004 01:14 PM

Just got off the phone with Phil Parlock, who is amused by desperate liberal rumor-mongering (endorsed here) that the man wearing an IUPAT t-shirt and holding a piece of his little girl's Bush/Cheney sign is his own son.

"That's ridiculous. This is a small town," Parlock told me from his home in Huntington, W. Virginia. "Everyone would recognize him."

Parlock and his daughter were surrounded by a group of about five or six nasty pro-Kerry folks, two or three of whom wore IUPAT shirts. He received a voice mail from the president of the IUPAT, whose apology (as noted below) is here. Am waiting for a call back from IUPAT president James Williams.

IUPAT members, by the way, were involved in a previous sign-tearing incident involving Parlock and his family, according to Parlock.

[DBtv]

1. If mm says it wasn't his son, it proves it was his son.

She is a pathological liar.

[wicket]

4. "She is a pathological liar."

Among other things. She is desperately trying to be the new Ann Coulter, how pathetic.

[papau]

21. If the person wearing the kids University Cap is not the son - why is he

waering the son's cap.

It is all so confusing - so the media will never call the GOP on this fake story.

[deutsey]

You'd think if it's an actual union member

the union would be able to identify him.

As Parlock says, it's a small community. I'm not saying it's his son, by the way; I'm just saying that he's clearly seen in the photo and other union members should be able to point him out. Or even people who just know who this guy is.

[Mr Blond]

9. I thought the union president already apologized?

This doesn't seem like it should be too hard to shake-out.

I'm SO tired of these non-stories grabbing all the headlines. Sigh...

[deutsey]

12. That was apparently before all the new info on Parlock's past

stunts surfaced.

[Mr Blond]

22. But why would he appologize if he didn't know it was one of his guys??

I guess I haven't followed all this close enough...

Sorry to be wasting your time too. :(

[Walt Starr]

26. Because it was released that a guy from his Union did this

It's called getting out in front of the bad PR.

[Mr Blond]

34. So he takes the fall even though he doesn't recongize the guy?

Or have the guy identified???

Doesn't wash. No one with an ounce of sense goes that far. And I can only assume this union president is a fairly bright guy and a loyal dem.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

38. Yes. That way you deflect as much of the bad publicity as possible.

This is very basic PR.

[Walt Starr]

40. check the site again, the Union President is in New York

This is a national Union.

[MsTryska]

43. Unions are pretty freakin big.

The person who apologized is the Union president in NY.


this guy could have been a member of a WV local.

the Union President isn't gonna recognize on sight every single member of every single local.

[deutsey]

35. Not wasting my time...

Based on another thread I read earlier today, a DU'er contacted the Union Prez AFTER his apology and told him about Parlock's past. The poster said he was very interested in this info and the poster and many DU'ers sent him new info.

Look at how many people here at DU immediately believed this story was true at first. I'm sure the Union Prez was mortified to think one his guys would do something like that (at the very least, this is a huge PR problem for the union).

Who knows, it may be a true story, but let's just say this guy has a terrible knack for having Democrats rip up his signs going back to 1996.

[Mr Blond]

37. Yes, the guy has a history!

So let's focus on THAT! Let's NOT focus on something that's going to be proven WRONG later (Like I said in another post, this seems to be heading down the CBS memo trail...One small mistake chews-up all the REAL issues!!)


Anyway...

Thanks for the update. :)

[DBtv]

13. Knee jerk reaction of fear of reprisal from fascists.

You, of all people, should understand.

[Mr Blond]

19. Me of all people?

You know me?

Anyway...

Has the president made a new statement? I can only assume he would know if this guy is a member of his union or not. Like I said, it seems like all this could be put away fairly quickly. I see yet ANOTHER damned CBS memo thing sucking up all the oxygen!!!

GET BACK TO ISSSUES THAT MATTER!!!

Sorry for the screaming. :)

[Mr Blond]

24. That's what I'm saying...

...Doesn't seem to difficult to me...

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[BootinUp]

44. Just a look at the shape of their chins

I mean the father and the IUPAT poser, they are related.

[TNOE]

2. Parlock son on FreeRepub

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?id=167597

To everyone:

I am the eldest of the Parlock clan. I am Sophia's older sister. To clarify for all of you, the photo WAS NOT A SET-UP. Perhaps it is hard for some of you to believe that Kerry supporters really can be that cruel. She is crying real tears, the thug in the picture is NOT one of our brothers, Dad really IS upset, and boy on the right is a brother and has fists clenched ready to fight. I am disappointed that some of you think a Bush supporter would actually set something like that up. One of my other brothers has been on some of the other threads clarifying other questions. I thought I should get on here and clarify before things got blown out of proportion. To the rest of you who have shown nothing but support THANK YOU! Dad had no intention of causing problems. He merely took my sister and brother out to show support of the President. It is a sad day when we cannot assemble peacefully in support of the President. Someone mentioned it was a shame Dad took a 3-year old with him in protest. There is a difference in protesting and supporting. He was not heckling, not chanting, yelling, nor antagonizing. He was merely standing there with signs. There is no crime against that. This is America, one should think that he would be able to take his young daughter out and show support without being concerned about her safety among fellow West Virginians. Also, I am disappointed with the WV comment. No, not everyone in WV is related. BTW My brothers look NOTHING like that thug in the photo! Zoom in and take a better look!

[Maddy McCall]

8. Nah, that's just a creative freeper...

I could have authored the same thing. I know everything he posted just from the research I have done today and last night.

[grasswire]

71. that poster joined freerepublic today

Dunno.

[KurtNYC]

81. Or he created the screenname today

Otherwise we could check his prior posts to see if he was Parlock's son 2 days ago.

[DBtv]

11. We did zoom in and it looks exactly like parschlock's spawn.

I call complete bullshit on the fascist repudlick post in the first place.

[City Lights]

39. Isn't this a lie right here?

He merely took my sister and brother out to show support of the President.

I thought the father stated he took his two sons, ages 21 and 11, and his daughter, aged 3. Now the eldest of the Parlock clan (well, at least he got the clan part right) claims it was daddy and just two of the 10 kids.

Is this a lie, a flip-flop, a smoke screen, or what?

[MsTryska]

57. incidnetally

that blond kid on the right sure doesn't look 11.

[Maddy McCall]

42. Read it again. This son claims to be Sophia's older sister.

Again, I am calling crap on this.

[deutsey]

46. Maybe he's sexually confused?

Cut him some slack.

:evilgrin:

[LoZoccolo]

3. Did she advocate puting union members in internment camps?

I don't want to click on her link!

[NoBorders]

5. Son at Marshall U, IUPAT guying wearing Marshall cap

Could easily be a coincidence, or not... In any case, it should be easy to identify him.

Heck maybe he is in the union, and a friend of phil's????

[Name removed]

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[quaoar]

17. Yeah right.

Aren't you interested in what the RW is up to?

Hell, even Salon compiles the RW's talking points so its readers can keep up with it.

[Guaranteed]

32. If you'd read a damned thing you'd have known that we

saw this hours ago.

[quaoar]

36. Well, excuse me for going to bed last night

[Kathy in Cambridge]

53. Last night? This has been going on all morning

sorry for being mean-maybe you suffer from a reading comprehension problem? I realize there are a lot of facts flying around.Do a search on a thread in GD04 by jchild. She has summarized the facts nicely.

[quaoar]

59. Yes.

And I came upon it this morning.

And commented on several threads about it. And mentioned that since it had been demonstrated that the sign ripper was not, in fact, a union member/Democrat, that I was wrong to be concerned last night.

Have you bothered to go and read those? Or are you more interested in rooting out sneaky freepers?

[Kathy in Cambridge]

62. See comment #54 by jonnyblitz

there's nothing sneaky about what's going on here. pretty damn blatant actually...

[quaoar]

68. What is blatant

is an attempt at intimidation.

I started this thread because I assumed people would want to know that Parlock is making denials.

[LoZoccolo]

72. Hey, cut it out.

I abhor paranoia-causing threads. Everyone knows there's more to this story than Malkin is saying; it's all over the place. Letting us know that the conservatives have found out what we're doing isn't going to hurt anything and isn't malicious. Quit breaking the rules and cut it out; you've already got one post deleted.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

84. Nothing paranoia-inducing about it

it's pretty straightforward.

[Mr Blond]

88. Oh, I get it now...

You seem to make this a game without regard to whom you're accusing.

Well, I'm not into games, so...Good-bye. I think I'll use one of the features for the first time...

[Lars39]

63. It's good to go back several pages when first logging on

to see what you might have missed overnight, or throughout the day. Especially if you're going to start a thread about something.

[Mr Blond]

28. Why's he here?

Just curious...

[Name removed]

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[Mr Blond]

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[Mr Blond]

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[Mr Blond]

79. Oh, I get it now...

That's a right wing site. (Didn't notice it when I first looked at it due to the reference to Dean at the top).


I guess you like trying to run people off? Is that your game? Well, give it up with me, aint gonna happen. And even though I'm fairly new here, I feel I have the right to say the following to you...

You know what you can do with your passive accusations of me. Yes, you do.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

83. No there's nothing passive about what I said.

I would call my style confrontational.

[Mr Blond]

85. Then what's your problem with me?

What have I done to you? Why are you trying to run me off?

[Kathy in Cambridge]

91. I'm not doing any such thing

just asking you if that's your blog. Nothing personal.

I have no problem with you. Welcome to DU.

[jonnyblitz]

54. it was obvious last night when he was scolding DUERs

for the sign being ripped like WE DID IT!. :puke:

[LoZoccolo]

67. Oh that was partially my fault for laughing about it.

Mine was like the second thread on this, and I was saying I thought it was funny. Back then we didn't have all this evidence, and I was just trying to take the steam out of this story by belittling it. I don't think we need to be paranoid; we're following this story closely and it's good to see what they're saying about it - partially because it lets us see what they're leaving out, so we know what to push. I don't think anyone can post much fake right-wing stuff here without the end result being replies debunking it.

[Beetwasher]

7. Well Gee, That Settles That!

He says it wasn't his son! It's not like he would have a reason to lie about it. :eyes:

[LoZoccolo]

10. P.S. where was his son, then?

Another article mentioned that the kid that's the suspected "union member" was with him! Where was he then, if he wasn't in the union shirt?

[frylock]

51. he certainly wasn't there to defend his poor little sister..

If I were a 21 year old male, and just saw my sister or father attacked like that, I would go fucking Chernobyl on whoever was responsible, unless of course I was too busy ripping a sign out of my sister's or father's hands.

[LoZoccolo]

64. Yeah good call, I hadn't thought of that. n/t

[Maddy McCall]

14. You know, you were the lead naysayer when we broke this scam last night...

And now you are pulling up that gopher's right wing trash website for WHAT REASON?

Forgive me if I say that I am really starting to wonder about your intentions.

[quaoar]

31. Wonder all you like

But knowing what I knew last night I would continue to be a naysayer. But since it was pointed out to me this morning that the sign ripper was Parlock's son, I admitted that I was wrong.

I actually found the Malkin passage on a link from Instapundit, which I went to when it was linked in the Washington Post blurb on this that was posted elsewhere.

No, I do not frequent Malkin's website.

And frankly, I am tired of the rolling eyes. So hit the alert button if it makes you all warm and happy.

[LittleClarkie]

61. This is like being in a

John Birch Society for the left wing. The Freepers are everywhere, doncha know.

"Paranoia, the destroyer...."

[Snivi Yllom]

15. IUPAT President issued an apology

http://www.ibpat.org/news/WVa.html

The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades believes in the fundamental right for civil discourse, freedom of speech and activism to support our candidates and issues.

What happened in Huntington, West Virginia yesterday is an affront to everything we, as a union, pride ourselves to represent. We extend our apologies to the Parlock family, especially Sophia, for the distress one of our overzealous members caused them.

I have personally taken steps to address this issue internally, and will take immediate disciplinary action to the fullest extent allowed under U.S. Department of Labor regulations and the constitution of the International Union of Painters and Allied Trades.

It is my hope that this incident reminds all of our members that every last citizen in this country has the right to express his or herself freely. Not one single one of us has the right to tell them otherwise.

General President James A. Williams
The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades

[Walt Starr]

16. That was BEFORE they were notified of the scam

And it's EVEN BETTER that Parlock is on the record denying it!

[Snivi Yllom]

82. this photo supposedly is Parlock's son

unless he gained a lot of weight it's not the guy in the union shirt

[Ravy]

87. The guy in the union shirt is supposedly Parlock's son, too.

What is your point?

The guy in the union shirt looks a LOT more like Parlock than your picture does. I will go with the union shirt guy.

But, maybe they are BOTH pictures of different sons... who knows?

[Snivi Yllom]

95. my point is

im not buying the conspiracy that the saign ripping was staged using his son dressed and a union member/Kerry supporter.

What I do believe is he loves going to events to rile up the opposing team and get press.

[sangh0]

96. That's always your point

Name the conpsiracy (BCCI, LIHOP, MIHOP, IRAN-Contra) and you won't buy it.

[deutsey]

18. This was issued before stories of Parlock's previous stunts

came to light.

[spotbird]

56. Obviously he relied on the newspaper's account as being accurate.

Horrified, he issued a press release. Duh.

He was foolish to rely on the Moonie Times as a news source, but it looks just like a newspaper, so it could have happened to anyone.

[Hepburn]

20. What a FREAKING spin IMO.

Someone pointed out that the sign clearly looks to be cut up and not torn - so, of course, Parlock could say it was not his son who TORE up the sign.

GMAFB :eyes:

[kwolf68]

23. This is a play

“Five or Six Nasty Pro-Kerry” folks? LMAO…Nothing like the Bush people? Ohhh, they are so warm and fuzzy, sweet and nice…

It is very well documented how Kerry people are being treated by the Bush clan at his rallies. Assuming you get close enough to smell the Bush stench, you run the risk of having someone physically assault you.

They just want to prove we are as horrible as they are

[Guaranteed]

25. DID ANYONE ASK HIM ABOUT THE BULLSHIT SHOOTING

he was involved in???

[henslee]

45. Has the Huntington police been notified? Sure they'd like to know.

[charlie105]

27. This is headed the way of the CBS story.

The goon might be a son. Maybe not. Might be a an acquaintance. Maybe not. But the story is going to be about whether the left is trying to accuse him of staging the outrage. NOT about why he's involved in similar incidents every time election cycle. And how these end up in newspapers.
Or why he happened to be a witness to the recent GOP shooting incident.

It might be too late to focus the story on where it should be focused. And that is, that this guy is out to besmirch the image of the anti-GOP supporter.

[Skinner]

29. This means we're starting to have an impact

Nice. :thumbsup:

[quaoar]

49. Thank you.

My point entirely.

[Stephanie]

30. If it's a small town, then call the local Dem headquarters

And ask them if they can look at the pix.

[MsTryska]

69. This is the a good idea.....

let's find the contact info for local dem headquarters and see what we can come up with.

[BurtWorm]

33. If everyone knows everyone, why doesn't the union know who the guy

in the T-shirt is? :eyes:

[Ganja Ninja]

41. Why is Parlock's son masquerading as a "union thug"?

If the whole thing wasn't staged why is he wearing that shirt? They've been caught and they know it.

[no name no slogan]

50. Yes, it's a little too "staged"

That union t-shirt is almost like an "S" on your chest. It's meant to clearly identify the "thug" as a union member. I would think a union brother, who knew that press was in attendence at this rally, would certainly be on his best behavior. Which means he would NOT be ripping signs out of the hands of three-year-olds.

Something stinks about Parlock. He needs to be outed quickly, and dealth with. And then we should drop this whole damned thing and start nailing Dubya's ass to the wall on Iraq, Medicare, the deficit, the economy, and everything else he's turned to sh!t in the last four years.

[bobbyboucher]

47. I'm drowning, help, I'm drowning in Republican water.

Who's carrying all this water in here? The DU is like Pensacola was yesterday.

[mtnester]

48. Well, he changes his little girl's looks to disguise her - why not the son

too? At the NJ rally where the Gold Star mom was arrested, he was there with his daughter.

Go to http://www.nbc4.tv/news/3737016/detail.html#, click the picture slideshow, and go to slide #4 of 51...tell me that is not him and his daughter, with her hair cut different.

(I am unable to cut and paste a direct link to that picture...sorry)

[Rambis]

58. Prediction!

they will find a fire arm in his posession or his family's posession that will proove to be the weapon that fired the shot into the GOP offices. This guy is a nutter!

[spotbird]

70. That may be a stretch.

All cute little blond girls look alike.

[MsTryska]

73. can't really tell

from the back of a random white guys head.

and i can't really commit to the babies looking anythign alike.

[johnnie]

74. This one..you just might be right

[mtnester]

76. Yes...both photos show a girl with very distinct facial features

not just the blond hair

[nostamj]

80. here's 4 of 51.... side by side with 'crying girl rally pic'

[HFishbine]

94. Why no wedding ring?

Is there a Mrs. Parlock?

[spotbird]

97. The hair is much longer in the more recent picture.

It's not the same kid.

[NervousRex]

55. Why does the "union member" have to be his son?

It could be any friend of Par-crock who was in on the stunt. The point here is that this guy is a political whiplash-artist....and local media rightwing gadfly who was probably involved in the shooting incident....forget the son angle.

[deutsey]

60. I agree...that's the big story

If we get proof that this is Parlock's son, then so much the better, but Parlock's past is news enough.

[Guaranteed]

66. But we know Phil Jr. was there, and he hasn't been accounted for

in any of the pictures.

And there's just something about the way that they're interacting with each other in the pictures...they look like they're FAMILY.

[KurtNYC]

75. I don't see a direct denial in that statement

"That's ridiculous. This is a small town," Parlock told me from his home in Huntington, W. Virginia. "Everyone would recognize him."

He never says it isn't his son. He strongly implies that it isn't but doesn't say it isn't. After reading some of the sworn SBVB statements, it seems suspect.

[Walt Starr]

92. Yep, definitely a non-denial denial!!!

Good Catch, Parlock is fluent in politicospeak!

[Nevernose]

86. If it's a small town

Then why can he not identify the "five or six nasty pro-Kerry folks, two or three of whom wore IUPAT shirts?"

Seems like if they'd recognize his son, his son would recognize them.

[underpants]

89. Parlock sits on the Cabell county Board of Education.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:HJPW_7-GDOkJ:www.cabellcountyclerk.org/EL45.HTM+phil+parlock+jr.&hl=en&start=4

[HFishbine]

93. No, underpants -- he lost

As reported elsewhere, he's run for office but never won. The election results in your post show him fourth in a race for the top two.

[Cocoa]

90. Malkin will get to the bottom of this

:-)