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GrantDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:43 AM
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Can someone confirm if this is true?
 "The provisions of the Act require employers to provide and pay for "qualified" health care coverage or face an 8 percent payroll tax.  The bill also states that even if employers provide and pay for health insurance coverage for their workforce, they could still be subject to an 8 percent payroll tax if employees decline employer coverage."
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:47 AM
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1. Well....
... where are you quoting that from, does it not cite a reference to the orignal bill?

Here is the text of the bill...

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

(IF that is "the Act" to which you are referring.)
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GrantDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:49 AM
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2. Communication my employer sent out.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:51 AM
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3. ha haaaaaa!!!!!
You work for United? Aetna? Cigna? Walmart?

That REALLY should be illegal.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 11:52 AM
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4. Just Curious - What Costs More - Provide Coverage Or Pay The 8% Tax,,,,,,
Seriously does it cost more to provide and pay for qualified health care coverage OR to pay the 8% payroll tax?

And if the employer doesn't provide qualified health care coverage and winds up paying the tax - are the employees eligible for a public plan insurance?
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GrantDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 12:03 PM
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5. Curious about the last part…
"The bill also states that even if employers provide and pay for health insurance coverage for their workforce, they could still be subject to an 8 percent payroll tax if employees decline employer coverage."
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 12:06 PM
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7. YES, the avg employee payed coverage is 12,000k a year in which employees usually pay around
...4-5 k a year of and the employer pays the rest.

8% is a lot less than around 12% of the medium avg salary
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 12:06 PM
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6. Depends on the size of the business.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 12:07 PM
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8. This too
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GrantDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 12:16 PM
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9. What if employer offers coverage and employee refuses?
Does employer still face the 8% penalty?
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 12:35 PM
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10. I'm shooting from the hip here...
If the employee refuses coverage he would face 8% penalty unless he proves he has "qualified" health care coverage. The burden of proof falls to the employee. That's reasonable; fill out an exemption form for their records to cover their ass. Not reasonable is the employer getting to decide what coverage is good, or not.

If passed, the health care plan does not to go into effect until 2013. If appears you company chiefs are working real hard to get in front of this, almost like they have an agenda.

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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-10-09 12:55 PM
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11. Nothing I have read in the bill suggests that and of course it also
seems impossible for that scenario to occur. They aren't going to let employees refuse coverage just to screw their employers.
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