New Jersey Dem to oppose healthcare bill

[ccharles000]

Rep. John Adler (D-N.J.) announced today that he'll vote against healthcare reform when it comes up for a vote this weekend.

Adler had previously been undecided.

"Congress should not pass a bill that costs more than $1 trillion dollars or increases the financial burden on middle class families and small businesses," Adler said in a statement. "Health care costs are rising faster than wages and inflation, and this bill does not change this trend."

Adler is a first term Congressman who garnered just 52% of the vote in 2008. It's also worth nothing that New Jersey voters just elected Republican Chris Christie to replace Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine...

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/66741-new-jersey-dem-to-oppose-healthcare-bill

[joeybee12]

1. "It's also worth noting...

He's an asshole.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

2. Wet finger, raise into air... n/t

[xchrom]

3. ...

"Congress should not pass a bill that costs more than $1 trillion dollars or increases the financial burden on middle class families and small businesses," Adler said in a statement. "Health care costs are rising faster than wages and inflation, and this bill does not change this trend."

[Aramchek]

4. once 218 is reached, watch how many neas turn to yeas

these fucks aren't going to risk being on the wrong side of one of the defining reforms of our time

[geek tragedy]

5. Meanwhile, Rahm Emmanuel was spotted holding

a door open for Olympia Snowe.

[SKKY]

10. OMFG!

:spray: :rofl:

[ProSense]

6. He was never undecided.

Already, 23 Dems have said they will vote ‘no’ on healthcare reform

Rep. John Adler (D-N.J.), a vulnerable Democrat, was equally blunt. He told a group of constituents last month, “The bill that’s coming through the House, with or without the public option, isn’t good for America.”

[davidpdx]

9. I don't know I'm skeptical. I see where I said that in the article, but the statement is wishy washy

I think he was looking for a little bit more cover for his no vote and was waiting on the outcome of the NJ Gubernatorial race.

[BrklynLiberal]

7. Wonder how he will vote when it comes to funding the war....

NJ is notorious for their pharma connections...

[independentpiney]

8. He's my pathetic Rep, i wrote him a letter last week

telling him what a disappointment he's been and that I'll be doing my part to make sure he's a one-termer. In August he was sending mailings out that looked like they came from a teabagger. He's sided with the republicans on more votes than with Democrats from what I've seen in congress.org reports.

[LovinLife]

11. Now I made a thread saying the Governors races would make spineless dems run away fro HCR and was

I was mocked. This is what I was talking about. Spineless democrats that don't have the balls to do whats right. We officially need a progressive party now. I'm tired of this sh1t. And its getting worse.

[The Magistrate]

12. He Will Lose Next Year For Sure, Sir, If He Votes Against This Bill

The people who voted him into office did so because they wanted someone who would not do what a Republican would. If he acts like a Republican, they will have no reason whatever to vote for him again....

[amandabeech]

13. We'll need a better turnout, though. n/t

[The Magistrate]

14. People Who Vote Like a Democrat, Ma'am, Get Good Turn Out

Those who vote like a Republican do not.

These novice 'blue dog', or rather 'Bush dog', types profoundly misread the dynamics that got them into office.

[amandabeech]

15. Well, I hope that you are right, Sir.

My experience is that the hard core dems and older people come out in off-year elections. Older people seem to view voting as a real patriotic duty, and the retired people usually have more time anyway.

Many of Obama's supporters aren't hard core yet. They may become so after 2012, but I have doubts about them for 2010 unless the candidate in question has that extremely unusual Obama-like appeal. Not all real dems do, and I can visualize a blue dog who would.

[Imajika]

16. That is not always true...

We may all get angry with the DINO types, but what your saying really is not true.

There are many, many "finger in the air" Conservadems who stay in office by walking the tightrope, running as a Democrat and voting all too often with the Republicans.

People like Mary Landrieu for example. A senator in a red state that runs as a Dem but can not be counted on half the time because she is busy voting against our legislative priorities.

There are many more like her. These are the types that really only care about staying in office, and they are pretty savvy at doing it.

The GOP used to have them as well. Pretty sure they call 'em RINO's. How do you think the Republicans feel about what remains of their version of the wishy washy, craven, no principle, political animals like Collins and Snowe. Hell, they even had Specter for the longest time. A true turd of a human being who will do ANYTHING necessary to stay in office. His time might have run out, but he has managed to stay in office a really long time voting with the Democrats whenever he felt he had to in order to stay in office.

Also, just an FYI, I have been on DU for what seems like forever now and have always appreciated your civil, polite style of debate when reading the forums.

[The Magistrate]

17. For Those Who Have Been Around A While, Sir, there Is Something To What You Say

Those who were put into office in elections dominated by revulsion against the Republicans, the two most recent general elections, are in a different situation. They were put in because the Democrats in a district, even if a minority, were highly energized, and because the middle of the road types wanted a change. They can only hold the energy of the committed partisans, and the allegiance of the middle of the road types, by being that change. If they do not, but simply try and look like a Republican, they will lose, as President Truman's line that "If you run a fake Republican against a real one, people will take the genuine article every time," will apply.

Your further comment, Sir, is much appreciated. Thank you.

[Imajika]

18. I see your point...

..but I wouldn't assume that revulsion with the Republicans will last for long. Memories are short, people tend to forget and gravitate back to the worldview they have always held. Political beliefs change, but sometimes it takes a really long time.

For me, and probably yourself, getting elected to office would be about actually getting important things done. Sadly, for an extremely high percentage of actual politicians, getting elected to public office is mostly about....well....being in public office. They may have their political leanings and beliefs (which would often, but not always, explain which party they gravitated to from the beginning), but what is most important to them is retaining their power as elected representatives.

Someone like Senator Landrieu may very well hold views that are inline with most progressives, but what is most important to her is staying in office and she will vote pretty much for or against whatever is necessary to achieve that.

Anyway, I get your point about the Democrats elected in 06' and 08'. I think there is a lot of truth in what you say, I was just pointing out that there are infact quite a few of these DINO's who really do manage to stay in office in right of center leaning districts by voting with the Republicans all too often. Political animals these people are. Fingers to the wind on every issue, but sadly they are rewarded for it quite often.