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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 03:15 PM
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So How Many Funerals Has Obama Attended




.....As President???? of US soldiers who have died while serving in Iraq and A-stand.


Many here on the DU bitched about Bush Jr lack of attendance.



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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 03:17 PM
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1. He's wayyyy too busy,
you know, working hard to overturn DOMA and DADT, fighting hard for real health reform, and prosecuting the Bush war crimes.:shrug: :shrug: How much more can one man do?
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 03:19 PM
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2. there's another site you should visit more --------> its that way. way to the right.
the way you asked that was obnoxious and shit disturbing. have a problem with us bitching about the giggling mass murderer?, have a problem that you can even compare the two men in any way?

as I said -----------------> walk that way, and stay there. this crap is getting severely annoying. I have no problem reading legitmiate criticisms but why people are allowed to stay here that consistently slam Obama and call him vile names of the sort I see here all the time, well, thats just nuts.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 03:29 PM
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8. Exactly..wft is this..fucking rw central?
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 03:20 PM
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3. Damn I wish I could double unrec
truly POS threads, sometimes pressing that button once just doesn't display the proper amount of FOAD as pressing it 4 or 5 times might do.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 03:23 PM
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4. Yeah, well they were stupid weren't they.
I don't expect any sitting president to go to any soldier's funeral. That is stupid. President's have better things to do. Like ENDING the FUCKING WAR!
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 03:27 PM
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7. Would a family even want all that spectacle at their child's funeral?
I have nothing against Bush not going to those funerals...I do have issues with getting us into these wars.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 03:26 PM
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5. Hey everybody: Here's your chance to shit on the democratically elected Democratic President.
I see it's already begun.

Of course if you miss this thread there will be others.

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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 03:27 PM
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6. I don't believe he's attended any. But I do understand that he sends personal letters
to the families of those who have died, with thoughts he selects carefully himself, and he signs them himself.

Of course, I wouldn't expect him to attend the funerals. If he did, he would be so busy attending funerals and traveling he'd have no time for anything else. But a thoughtful letter that shows he doesn't take lightly the sacrifice such persons have made...I think that says something about the man.

No, he's not perfect. No, he hasn't done everything he's promised or suggested he would as yet. But I don't expect he'll have accomplished it all in nine or ten months.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 02:32 AM
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19. If he did, the RW would start bitching about how much he's spending "on vacation"
Besides, I think the Congresscritters usually do the attending.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 03:53 PM
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49. He doesn't send them to those who commit suicide though.
Even though the suicide is a direct result of mental illnesses incurred while deployed. Democracy Now did a thing on this earlier this week. I guess suicides AS A DIRECT RESULT OF THIS BULLSHIT WAR do not count?
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Riverman Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 03:30 PM
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9. More Golf in nine months than Bush in 2.5 yrs! Could it be...?
Nah!
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rubberducky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 03:37 PM
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12. bush was busy clearing brush at the WH west at his fake pig farm.
He flew all over the country on 911 hiding. Katrina? AWOL was absent from that too. The turds are floating to the surface around here.
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 03:35 PM
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10. WOW!!!
It didn't take long to find something else to bitch about did it?

I mean, the public option is now going to be a reality, much to the sorrow of the haters here so they can't use that one any longer so they're pulling the funeral card out now.

It's always something.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:40 AM
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30. +1 nt
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 12:15 PM
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33. +1
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 03:36 PM
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11. He, unlike Bush, is allowing coffins to be seen coming back from Afghanistan and Iraq.
He's not trying to hide the consequenses of war.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 03:45 PM
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13. An excellent step in the right direction. nt
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 03:50 PM
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14. Unrec'd
I have my issue with Obama, but this is just dumb.

RL
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 03:55 PM
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15. Maybe he could call on that m.f. Cheney to represent the US
Since he and the puppet sent them there.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 05:12 PM
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16. Unrec. n/t
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 10:45 PM
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17. unrec n/t
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 01:14 AM
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18. Unrecommend!
The Iraq War was/is illegal and immoral. bush* jr. took the country to war based completely on lies and ginned-up false information. bush* jr. deliberately tried to obscure the human cause-and-effect of the conflicts he started. President Obama has done NO SUCH THING.

And finally, bush* jr. was the worst president in our country's history and a malicious little chicken-shit asshole, and to boot was not legally or lawfully elected EITHER TIME.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 02:36 AM
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20. He has attended one for every war he started, and botched. eom
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 09:02 AM
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21. what, is this the newest bucket from the well of outrage?
:shrug:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:16 AM
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22. I'd like a good & valid answer to this question-especially since Obama won a "peace prize" & all.
Edited on Tue Oct-27-09 10:17 AM by earth mom
edited to add: HUGE REC-because I'm not in denial, unlike most of GD-P.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:39 AM
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28. If he's invited to a funeral, I'm sure he'll attend
In the meantime, it's up to the families to decide. Don't you think?

By the way, did your primary choice vote for the war?
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 12:08 PM
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31. What the fuck does Obama doing the right thing have to do with whom I support?
Edited on Tue Oct-27-09 12:10 PM by earth mom
Nice way to muddy the waters. NOT! :eyes:

So you tell me- is Obama gonna EARN that "peace prize" or what?

I think not.

I also find it interesting that Obama never served in the Armed Forces just like *. No, make that * was AWOL, which is about the same thing.

Guess it's easier to call for other people to die when you never had to face the firing line yourself.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 12:24 PM
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36. Nice try, but the families still have to invite him
You don't just crash a funeral--that is NOT the right thing to do. You hate Obama, I get it. But find something more credible to bitch about.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 12:22 PM
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35. Actually, you are in denial.
You're in denial of Obama's presidency. You never liked him to begin with, and nothing will ever change your mind.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 12:21 PM
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56. You know that Bush, and probably your pick for President, voted for the war(s).
Obama is in charge of ending them; which is what he's working on. Are you against that?
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:25 AM
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23. Fair question to ask since, as you rightly pointed out, so many of us DU'ers were giving
Dubya hell for not going to funerals.

I think the fact that he is writing personal letters is a wonderful thing and is probably better than actually going in person, thought.

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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:25 AM
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24. we bitched because Bush's war was for his own purposes
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:36 AM
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25. Are you mad that DU bitched about Dubya's lack of attendance?
Hmmmm....

And may I remind you that some of that "bitching" was due to the fact that Dubya STARTED the war.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:37 AM
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26. I think it is a fair question & wasn't it Michelle who said it was her mission to support military
families? Well attending a good number of these funerals would be a good way of supporting the families. Obama should go too.

:kick:
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:39 AM
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29. Grab a mop nt
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 03:35 PM
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46. No it is not supporting the families
Sorry to rain on your hate fest. Crashing a funeral because of politics does nothing to support the families. Some of you are so fucking pathetic.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 11:13 AM
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52. What is Pathetic is to think that the Commander and Chief attending the funeral
of a fallen soldier would not be support or solace for the family. Funeral crashing my azz. :eyes:
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Brooklyns_Finest Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 10:37 AM
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27. Sick
This thread is just sick. As a former Marine, who has attended a funeral for a friend who died in combat; I can tell you that having the president in attendance would just be an annoyance.

Everything does not have to be about politics!
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billh58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 01:36 PM
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42. Thanks for
the breath of fresh air. Most of those who are calling for President Obama to attend the funerals of those who died in combat, are being disingenuous. A funeral is a private affair for the family and close friends. For any POTUS to attend an otherwise solemn and very personal ceremony, would turn it into a circus made up of his entourage of bodyguards, the media, protesters, and lookey-loos.

As a Viet Nam era combat veteran, I respect our President's decision not to intrude on our fallen comrades' final moments with their families and friends.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 12:12 PM
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32. .
:eyes:
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 12:16 PM
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34. ...and and he aint lit his hair on fire and flew around the world either!!!!
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 12:41 PM
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37. He's been in office only 9 mos., and he's been dealing with the 2nd Great Depression...
or rather, trying to avoid the 2nd Great Depression. An historical crisis.

So I guess you'll excuse his tardiness a bit, while he deals with the collapse of our financial system. Once he gets that on track, and the historical health reform, he'll probably attend a few funerals (if invited). Thus far, no one's invited him, that I know of.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 12:59 PM
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38. It was Obama, and Obama alone, who put the peace option off the table in Afghanistan
Just as he put single payer off the table in health care, Obama put getting out of Afghanistan off the table.

It is his war. Those are the men and women killed and wounded under his watch.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-27-09 01:05 PM
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39. And you knew this before you voted for him.
Or you didn't vote for him?
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 02:52 PM
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45. He also said he opposed mandates when it came to insurance when I voted for him
if he changed his mind on that he can change his mind on Afghanistan (except there's defense contractors that will lose a lot of money if we get out of Afghanistan so maybe he is being consistant about what he does and doesn't change his mind about in a corporate friendly kind of way).

I get very tired of the attitude that voting for Obama was a blind loyalty oath and that voting for him means we're not suppose to question anything he does. Had I known that was the case, I would have voted for the Socialist candidate.

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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 12:48 PM
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40. Yep. That's why he won the election. If he had campaigned on SP and pulling out of
Afghanistan, he would not have won.

I understand your position, and I agree in part with it. But because it's YOUR position doesn't mean it's the position of the majority (it isn't). And Obama reflects the majority, for the time being.
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ampad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 03:37 PM
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47. Have you put out any false headlines yet today?
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 12:51 PM
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41. Most Presidents don't attend military funerals. They are private occasions.
When teh Prez attends, so does the media, lots of security, etc.

Clinton never attended a military funeral. I think Carter attended one, from a hostage crisis death, not a war. He attended only one, as a show of support. Bush never attended one, as you noted.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 01:40 PM
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43. Bitched? n/t
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 01:41 PM by Canuckistanian
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 01:58 PM
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44. I"m very sorry I'm too late to Unrecommend!
How stupid
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 03:51 PM
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48. What the heck are you trying to stir up?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 11:33 PM
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50. Check this out, Peacetrain..
"Obama Heads To Dover Air Force Base To Honor Fallen Soldiers"

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama is making an overnight dash Wednesday to Dover Air Force Base to honor the return of fallen soldiers, absorbing the ultimate cost of war as the United States endures its deadliest month of the Afghanistan campaign.
On a clear fall night, Obama flew by Marine One helicopter directly to Delaware to greet the flag-draped caskets of those killed in action.
The unannounced trip began around midnight and was expected to have the president back at the White House before dawn on Thursday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/29/obama-heads-to-dover-air-_n_337930.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8721000
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 11:52 AM
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54. I saw that when I got up this morning Cha.. the salute by the President
brought tears to my eyes.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 11:07 AM
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51. your thread sucked hard before, but at least now it's official...
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 11:51 AM
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53. well, he just met caskets coming off the plane in dover, so you get double the fail on that poutrage
attempt :shrug:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 12:08 PM
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55. A better question is : How many have YOU attended??
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-29-09 12:22 PM
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57. Funeral attendance is an overrated issue.
What's more salient, is how many needless funerals a president brings about. Afghanistan promises plenty.
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