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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:30 AM
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White House's Fox News Boycott Attempt Prompts Network Revolt





First Posted: 10-23-09 09:56 AM | Updated: 10-23-09 10:16 AM


Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/23/white-houses-fox-news-boy_n_331437.html

White House's Fox News Boycott Attempt Prompts Network Revolt


The White House attempted to block Fox News from a round of interviews with "pay czar" Kenneth Feinberg Thursday, but the Washington bureau chiefs of the five TV networks included in the White House pool refused to interview Feinberg unless Fox News was included.

Fox News says that the White House "failed in its attempt to manipulate other news networks into isolating and excluding Fox News."

The attempt to shut Fox News out was the latest move in the administration's ongoing battle against the cable news channel, which several senior administration officials have claimed is not a legitimate news organization.

The decision by the network bureau chiefs to stand with Fox News is one of the first instances of the mainstream media defending Fox News against the White House's claims.


Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/23/white-houses-fox-news-boy_n_331437.html
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:34 AM
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1. Why the loyalty to FOX
Truth be known, FOX wouldn't piss on the other networks if they were on fire. Do they really think that if they support FOX that the favor will be returned?

All this proves is that the media in DC are the same!!!
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:36 AM
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5. Fox is a possible future employer of theirs
Haven't you ever heard, "You'll never work in this town again"?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:36 AM
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6. Since they all pandered to bush/cheney lest they be cut off,
it is especially galling to see them rally for Fairly Unbalanced News
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:38 AM
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9. You are probably right.
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daggahead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:35 AM
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2. I like the fact that there is finally a good ...
Edited on Fri Oct-23-09 11:35 AM by daggahead
distraction to send the repugs on a wild goose chase. They've done that to the Dems for far too long.

Let's keep this going.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:35 AM
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3. Then the White House should shut them all out.
Seriously.

If the white house is freezing out one network and the other networks don't like it, fine.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:59 AM
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12. I agree except I don't consider FOX to be a news network.
Also, if the other networks don't want to provide the news from the WH then they should also leave. Permanently.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:06 PM
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17. I agree completely.
If the networks don't want to report...well, it's not that big a change from when they *do* want to report, is it?
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:36 AM
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4. They need to stick to their guns
Fox is a RW tabloid and needs to be treated as such
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:37 AM
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7. Oh, So Now The News Orgs Find Their Guts?
Now that a Repub is no longer President.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 01:46 PM
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25. +1! They let Bush pee on them constantly....
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:38 AM
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8. "Liberal" Media my ass. n/t
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:44 AM
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10. The rest of the MSM is owned by pigs from the same sty as is Rupert Murdock.
They may try to hide behind the facade of "journalistic standards," but it is in actuality big business trying to protect big business.
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:50 AM
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11. If faux is exposed the rest of the media will be exposed.
Shut the corporate media out.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:59 AM
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13. Why didn't they all walk out when Jeff Gannon, WH plant, revealed himself?
Why didn't newspaper columnists get in a huge uproar and protest after it was discovered the WH was paying columnists to push policy objectives?

And why didn't the WH press corps (including Helen Thomas, herself) walk out en masse when Sam Donaldson was barred from the Reagan WH for asking a question at a press conference that hadn't been prevetted by the administration.

I'd like to know.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 11:59 AM
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14. "If Jeff Gannon can't be part of it, we won't be part of it."
VIDEO: "If Fox can't be part of it, we won't be part of it"
By GottaLaff

Getting a little clubby, aren't we?

Hey! How about this? If Jeff Gannon can't be part of it, we won't be part of it. Let's not forget his noble efforts, because it make just as much sense and is just as legitimate as taking ClusterFox seriously.

This is downright illogical:

The White House attempted to block Fox News from a round of interviews with "pay czar" Kenneth Feinberg Thursday, but the Washington bureau chiefs of the five TV networks included in the White House pool refused to interview Feinberg unless Fox News was included. ...

"I'm really cheered by the other members saying "No, if Fox can't be part of it, we won't be part of it,'" Baltimore Sun TV critic (and regular Fox News detractor) David Zurawik said Thursday.

More:
http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009/10/video-if-fox-cant-be-part-of-it-we-wont.html
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:04 PM
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16. White house should put all their information out on liberal radio, blogs, other media outlets
including you tube.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #16
53. Gee what a great way to spread your message
Promise me you'll never become a political consultant.
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:01 PM
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15. I have found
no source to this story that doesn't go back to Fox News or Weekly Standard. I want to see this memo, that allegedly says NO FOX NEWS.

I think it's a bullshit lie. I've been trying since yesterday to find a source.
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. I'm with you....
No source but fox. None.
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old guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:51 PM
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21. I have been to my usually reliable haunts,
but have found nothing so far to substantiate any of this. I think you nay be on the right track here.
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hileeopnyn8d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 01:56 PM
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28. It's making me crazy that I can't find anything!
Last night I posted on another message board (just a general topic board with some politics thrown in from the persistent Beck fans) that the whole thing was a lie. I haven't been back but I'm sure they're ripping me apart now with links to the "iberal" Huffpo as proof. But it isn't proof.

When I first read about it they seemed to be combining the questions and responses from Jake Tapper & Carol Lee from a daily press briefing that occurred before this alleged event, and the lunch that Keith & Rachel went to.

I find it strange that if all these Washington Bureau chiefs were willing to stand up for Fox, how come none of them are talking about it?
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #15
23. I made the same remark in LBN !
:shrug:

Fox is trying to make a big deal out of this.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #15
36. Whiney little bullies at
faux got their feelings hurt.:nopity:
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #15
37. CBS News confirms
"And on Thursday, the Treasury Department tried to exclude FOX News from pool coverage of interviews with a key official. It backed down after strong protests from the press.

"All the networks said, that's it, you've crossed the line," said CBS News White House correspondent Chip Reid."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/23/eveningnews/main5415921.shtml?tag=stack
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 07:51 PM
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38. Guess what? I mean besides, "mediawhores suck"?
"Treasury Department Denies it Tried to Exclude Fox News From Interviews"

Treasury Department Denies it Tried to Exclude Fox News From Interviews
by Tommy Christopher | 6:26 pm, October 23rd, 2009

We reported earlier that when Fox News was banned from a round-robin interview with Obama administration “Pay Czar” Kenneth Feinberg, the bureau chiefs of the other major networks banded together to thwart the White House. Now, Mediaite has learned exclusively that the Treasury Department, who set up the interviews, denies the story.

A Treasury Department spokesperson tells Mediaite the following:

There was no plot to exclude Fox News, and they had the same interview that their competitors did. Much ado about absolutely nothing.

Reporting on the story has been sketchy thus far, with Fox News being the only network to report it so far. In their report, they also fail to make it clear that it was the Treasury Department, not the White House, who was responsible for setting up the interviews. Neither Fox News nor the Treasury Department has provided copies of the bulletins that were sent to the press pool, which Politico reports were missing Fox’s name. Politico also reports that Treasury contacted the White House about the omission, and in a statement, the White House told Politico “The fact that Major Garrett conducted and interview with Ken Feinberg at a time when all the other networks did speaks for itself…”

TV Newser points out, via an anonymous source, that a decision by the other nets to skip the interviews may have been more financial than principled:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8713218

The media is on full frontal assault and some on DU are doing their best to assist them.(not you)
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 08:18 PM
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39. Okay, I'm confused. So why the hell did CBS News White House correspondent Chip Reid
say that they banded together and said "that's it you crossed the line" to the White House? What would be the point of him lying about something like this???
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #39
40. Well, I do know chip reid
is a disingenuous mediawhore so I don't trust him any further than I could throw him.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 03:43 PM
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41. Thought you'd like to see this, Number 23.. Cross post from GD.
<snip>

Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-23-09 10:43 PM
Original message

"Larisa Alexandrovna: It Is Official, Fox Fabricated The "Denied Access" Story..."

Talking Points Memo and Larisa Alexandrovna uncover the latest Fox News lie. Larisa argues it is a major journalistic ethics violation. Rachel Maddow on Her Show Tonight - The difference between fox and the news is not expression of opinion. Fox is actively promoting and organizing anti-government protests:

LARISA

http://www.atlargely.com/atlargely/2009/10/it-is-offici...

October 23, 2009

It is official, Fox fabricated the "denied access" story ...

Following up on this post, here is what actually happened (RE: hero to Fox" but rather had to use a single camera crew due to logistics.

3. Despite the facts, Fox and the glue-sniffing idiots who defend them, spread word far and wide of the "Nixonian" (interesting how that term suddenly popped up everywhere and all at once, as though a memo had been issued) war against them and Obama's "enemy list" bullshit."

<more>
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6845267

Post from the above thread..

"SO WILL CHIP REID RETRACT HIS COMMENTS AND COVER THIS????? Maybe Rick Sanchez will n/t"
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 03:57 PM
Response to Reply #41
43. Thanks, Cha! But I'm still confused as all hell
If this never happened, what possible gain could come from a CBS reporter saying that it did?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #43
44. My question in the same thread..
"28. Chip Reid needs to be held accountable! Was
he being disingenuous or was he just out of the loop?"


It could be as simple as a US Mediawhore thing..they stop at nothing.


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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #43
45. P.S. CBS is the mediaWhore that got rid of
Dan Rather.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #45
46. There is more to this story than we may wish to concede.
"In a sign of discomfort with the White House stance, Fox’s television news competitors refused to go along with a Treasury Department effort on Tuesday to exclude Fox from a round of interviews with the executive-pay czar Kenneth R. Feinberg that was to be conducted with a “pool” camera crew shared by all the networks. That followed a pointed question at a White House briefing this week by Jake Tapper, an ABC News correspondent, about the administration’s treatment of “one of our sister organizations.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/us/politics/23fox.html?_r=1

Now we have a second news org, ABC News, saying that this did happen.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 05:16 PM
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50. Jake Tapper..Big MediaWhore..
BooHoo.."sister station":nopity:

Sorry, but I'm not buying it from chip reid and jake tapper or anyone of the MW.

I trust the Treasury Dept "A Treasury spokesperson added: "There was no plot to exclude Fox News, and they had the same interview that their competitors did. Much ado about absolutely nothing." and the coporatemedia has given me 8 years drill into me what they're about..and I actually got it in two(2002)
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #50
51. "I'm not buying it from chip reid and jake tapper or anyone of the MW"
Edited on Sat Oct-24-09 05:45 PM by Number23
Well, if you're not going to listen to any of the people that were there and have chosen to distrust every member of the media, I can understand your decision to trust only the Treasury Dept.

I'm not sure about this story. I'll wait until more info comes out. I do think the fact that the public is even discussing how disreputable Fox is is a good thing but I'm no more inclined to believe only the Treasury on this matter than I would be inclined to only believe Fox.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:09 PM
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18. OK, so here's what I think.
I don't think Obama necessarily wants to ban Fox. He is just trying to make it clear to viewers that they shouldn't believe what they hear there.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. My sentiments exactly.
It doesn't matter that they all get together and try to tell us what to think about this White House action. The White House is saying notice this change, this new medium, pay attention to us.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 01:11 PM
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22. As someone who studies this closely, I'm truly appalled by this.
If this is about access and a fear of aggressive action to eliminate access, then they're overlooking that Fox is violating a key component of journalistic ethics: independent from political power.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 01:47 PM
Response to Reply #22
26. There seems to be no source to FAUX news claims....no surprise
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #26
27. well, even cenk accepts it as fact...............
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #27
32. That means nothing.
If the sources of the information aren't clear, it means zilch.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 01:39 PM
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24. Exclude them all. Give it to public access channels.
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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 03:52 PM
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29. I'm disgusted by this. once again the right has manipulated the media. Now Fox all of a sudden is
the victim. Give me a break. I swear, the media will be the downfall of this nation. All of them are useless cowards.
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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 03:55 PM
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30. And I wish the WH would've just pulled all of the interviews once they did this. Screw them.
Take a stand.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 04:22 PM
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31. Fine- then give all the hot interviews to Air America, Rachel, KO, etc.
The other nretworks will pick them up after the fact either way.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 05:28 PM
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33. Give the interview to C-Span and Lehrer and put it on YouTube
Edited on Fri Oct-23-09 05:29 PM by lunatica
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. It's that simple. I hope the WH does not cave on this.
n/t
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-23-09 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #34
35. I hope everyone jumps in to say their piece!
I hope it creates a press war! Let's get it out and make Fox very nervous. I hope serious journalists jump in to condemn Fox for saying they're a news channel.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 03:53 PM
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42. "Larisa Alexandrovna: It Is Official, Fox Fabricated The "Denied Access" Story.."
<snip>

"3. Despite the facts, Fox and the glue-sniffing idiots who defend them, spread word far and wide of the "Nixonian" (interesting how that term suddenly popped up everywhere and all at once, as though a memo had been issued) war against them and Obama's "enemy list" bullshit.

So in short, Fox fabricated a story to make themselves look like victims of a fabricated war on them being waged by the evil Commie Obama. Now tell me, is that journalism? And they wonder why they are seen as propaganda? Stephen Glass would have more credibility with me than these opportunistic feeders and spreaders. At least he was a lone culprit, not an entire organization built around distortion, lies, and ugly rhetoric:"



<much MOre>
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6845267
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StopTheNeoCons Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #42
47. CORRECT< HuffPo was WRONG
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mariawr Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 04:56 PM
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48. THIS IS CHIP REID.....
http://mediamatters.org/search/tag/chip_reid


# Media figures call on Obama to turn down the Nobel Peace Prize
October 09, 2009 2:11 pm ET filed under Research

# CBS' Chip Reid asks Gibbs whether Obama "consider turning" Nobel Prize "down," suggests award is "a partisan thing" and Nobel Committee "supports liberal causes"
October 09, 2009 1:15 pm ET filed under MMtv

# CBS Evening News reports that Democrats say Limbaugh is "whipping activists into a frenzy" with Nazi comparisons
August 07, 2009 8:39 pm ET filed under MMtv

# CBS ignored evidence undermining "double whammy" small-biz attack
July 16, 2009 5:14 pm ET filed under Research

# Media figures ignore facts to claim unemployment rate proves stimulus is "failing"
June 09, 2009 6:04 pm ET filed under Research

# CBS' Reid calls media on "judg politics by how the market is responding"
March 29, 2009 11:36 am ET filed under MMtv

# CBS' Couric, Reid report omnibus is "loaded," "filled," and "stuffed" with earmarks, don't note they are less than 2 percent of bill
March 11, 2009 8:50 pm ET filed under Research

# CBS advances falsehood that Obama's stimulus plan gives "tax refunds for people who don't pay taxes"
January 23, 2009 9:24 pm ET filed under Research

# Media repeat Cindy McCain's attack on Obama troop-funding vote, ignore John McCain's troop-funding vote
October 09, 2008 9:34 am ET filed under Research

# CBS' Reid aired McCain attacking Obama for purportedly being in the "Washington culture of lobbying" without noting McCain's own lobbying ties
September 20, 2008 6:15 pm ET filed under Research

# CBS devoted 5 minutes to "lipstick," other McCain attacks before reporting that "lipstick" attack was bogus
September 11, 2008 4:32 pm ET filed under Research

# CBS' Reid didn't note that experts, including Energy Dept., have rebutted assertion that expanded offshore drilling "will bring prices down"
July 29, 2008 1:36 pm ET filed under Research

# CBS' Reid repeated McCain's statement that Obama "impugn" his motives over GI bill, did not note McCain impugned Obama's motives
May 23, 2008 1:09 pm ET filed under Research

# MSNBC's Reid aired "Strangelove" attack, but didn't note Romney's agreement with Obama on substance
August 07, 2007 1:16 pm ET filed under Research



and there is lots more at the link. Chip is Faux Noise wannabe.You WILL get a RW spin from him.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 05:11 PM
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49. Despicable U.S. media.
Covering for a band of paid liars and lunatics and inciters of violence. Give 'em all the boot!
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 05:53 PM
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52. I love this.
Fox News says that the White House "failed in its attempt to manipulate other news networks into isolating and excluding Fox News.

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