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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 09:23 PM
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Slate: "Ignore Fox - Obama's right. It's time to stop taking the network's skewed news seriously"
Here is a nice story that does not circle the wagons and insist that Fox News is not heavily biased.

BTW I highly recommend Outfoxed. It would be nice if they update it, since I think Fox News has gotten even more crazy.

http://www.slate.com/id/2232563/?GT1=38001

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Ignore Fox - Obama's right. It's time to stop taking the network's skewed news seriously

Last week, when White House communications director Anita Dunn charged the Fox News Channel with right-wing bias, Fox responded the way it always does. It denied the accusation with a straight face while proceeding to confirm it with its coverage.

Take a look at Fox's own Web story on the episode. It begins by quoting a Fox News senior vice president named Michael Clemente, who says: "It's astounding the White House cannot distinguish between news and opinion programming. It seems self-serving on their part." Then it quotes David Gergen, the gravelly voice of Washington's conventional wisdom, who says the attack diminishes President Obama and works to Fox's benefit. Then we hear from Tony Blankley, Newt Gingrich's former press secretary and a frequent Fox contributor, who agrees that criticizing Fox makes no sense: "Fox has an audience of not just conservatives. They've got liberals and moderates who watch too." Then a White House correspondent for Politico echoes the claim that the controversy will boost Fox's ratings. Then comes an old quote from Fox anchor Chris Wallace, who calls Obama's team "the biggest bunch of crybabies I have dealt with in my 30 years in Washington." Then the story's anonymous author cites a joke Obama made at the White House Correspondents Dinner as evidence "that Fox News has gotten under his skin." Finally, the piece cites a Pew study that suggested that while Fox was equally negative about John McCain and Obama during the last six weeks of the 2008 campaign, CNN was more negative about McCain.

Let's do a quick study of our own. Five people are quoted in this article. Two of them work for Fox. All of them assert that administration officials are either wrong in substance or politically foolish to criticize the network. No one is cited supporting Dunn's criticisms or saying that it could make sense, morally or politically, for Obama to challenge the network's power. It's a textbook example of a biased news story.

If you were watching Fox News Channel, you saw the familiar roster of platinum pundettes and anchor androids reciting the same sound bites: criticizing Fox was Obama's version of Nixon's enemies list, the rest of the news media are in Obama's corner, Obama should get back to governing, Fox opinion shows are different from its news shows, it's always dumb to go after the press. On The O'Reilly Factor on Oct. 13, the evanescent Alan Colmes, the network's weak, battered house liberal, mumbled semi-agreement while "Doctor" Monica Crowley and Bill O'Reilly lit up the scoreboard with the familiar talking points.

Any news organization that took its responsibilities seriously would take pains to cover presidential criticism fairly. It would regard doing so as itself a test of integrity and take pains not to load the dice in its own favor. At any other network, accusation of bias might even lead to some soul-searching and behavioral adjustment. At Fox, by contrast, complaints of unfairness prompt only hoots of derision and demands for "evidence" and "proof," which when presented is brushed off and ignored.

There is no longer any need to get bogged down in this phony debate, which itself constitutes an abuse of the fair-mindedness of the rest of the media. One glance at Fox's Web site or five minutes randomly viewing the channel at any hour of the day demonstrates its all-pervasive political slant. The lefty documentary Outfoxed spent a lot of time mustering evidence about Fox managers sending down orders to reporters to take the Republican side. But after 13 years working for Roger Ailes, Fox employees don't need to be told to help the right any more than fish need a memo telling them to swim.

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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 09:28 PM
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1. I wish we could look at polling data....
... taken before and after this new WH strategy to see what effect it had.

I think there are two types of Fox viewers. The wingnut minority who hate the President and watch Fox BECAUSE of the negative spin they broadcast. And the majority, "regular" voters who might be a little bit more conservative than you and I and who generally have a favorable opinion of the Presdent, but dont realize what Fox is doing. Talk to your friends and family as I have and you'll see that most of them who watch Fox fall into this second category.

I think the WH is trying to get to THAT segment.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 09:36 PM
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3. I can't believe that your premise is correct. I can't see moderates NOT seeing
Faux for what it is and turning it off. I think that it is the opposite - that the majority of watchers hate the president and are half way (or more) to complete disconnection with reality.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 09:41 PM
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4. Try it.....
..... take a poll for of your friends and coworkers and I think you'll see what I mean. I cant tell you how often I've pointed out to people I know about how not only is Fox biased, sometimes they're outright lying.

Without fail, their response is "huh?" Folks are clueless.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 09:45 PM
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5. Problem is I am not aware of any friends who watch Faux - and the few
acquaintances (neighbors, etc) who do are rabid Obama haters. I think my wife and I have pretty much driven away any conservative friends we may have had with our "out there" support for Obama and all things progressive!
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 11:03 AM
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8. Don't Think The Goal Is A Political Bump, But ...
To try to end the charade that Fox News provides legitimate news. Fox News is no different from Rush Limbaugh, and no one regards Rush as a legitimate source of news.
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 09:34 PM
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2. "It's time"? WTH? When should we EVER have taken their skewed news seriously?
Edited on Thu Oct-22-09 09:35 PM by chalky
n/t
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:04 PM
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6. It's Orwellian to the absurd degree that Fox even bothers to deny the accusations.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 10:10 PM
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7. Thankfully Slate can see the light..So can KO, among others..
"Why the White House is 100% Right to Challenge Fox News (#1 Rated Diary @ DailyKos Right Now)"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x490033

"Obama's winnable war on Fox News"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/oct/14/fox-news-obama-white-house-war

KO is happy the White House is doing it..you can see it in this video..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x391108

Frank Scaeffer thinks he should go after faux even more..

<snip>

"President Obama is getting criticism for going after Fox News. I fault the White House too: for not going far enough. The real issue is not Fox's right wing "bias." The real issue is that FOX News seems to be trawling for assassins. Here's the letter White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs should write. Or maybe it should come from the head of United States Secret Service.


Dear Rupert Murdoch, since you are responsible for what is on Fox News I have a question for you: Do you ever wonder how you'll be remembered by Americans and the world (not to mention your children) if someone takes a shot at President Obama, and when asked why they did it, quotes the misinformation spouted by Fox News as their "reason"?

You have dozens of far right and dangerous and/or crazy seeming commentators working for you but lets just talk about one as an example of the rest. What of Glenn Beck?"


<more>
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x490550

KO..glad the White House is doing the heavy lifting now.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x391108


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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-24-09 11:36 AM
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9. Phony debate is right
It amazes me how much phony crap gets taken seriously. Sarah Palin for example. WTF...
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