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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:05 PM
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I really hate how the DNC pimps out Obama with all of these fundraisers
He seems to have 1 every wk. Can't they just get Bill Clinton and Al Gore to do it? Now news outlets are calling him a hypocrite.
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:07 PM
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1. Just like when it comes to policy matters Obama is the best salesman they have
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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:08 PM
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2. That a big problem tho. They need to find more salesmen/saleswomen. nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:08 PM
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3. I don't care what the freakin'
so called "news outlets" are calling PO. They find anY reason to whine..just like anyone else who loves to whine but can't do shit.

There's a lot money being used against the President and his agenda..I'm glad they're getting money to combat all that.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:42 PM
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11. That's one way to look at it. n/t
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:22 PM
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4. Un-rec'ed for spreading RW talking points. Every politician does fundraisers constantly.
It is a factor of our political system. Trying thinking for yourself sometime.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:53 PM
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18. Sad but true. They all do it. The "liberal" media didn't bother to report when Bush/Cheney did this
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:58 PM
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20. Sure they did:
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 03:24 PM
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24. well, OK but most of those were from last year, an election year
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 03:28 PM
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25. From 2003:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 08:50 AM
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55. From 2007:
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:24 PM
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5. I like how your concern appears to be for Obama's welfare
that's a nice touch. :thumbsup:
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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:48 PM
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13. Is this sarcasm? I think it kind of diminishes his power. So from that standpoint it does concern me
They should try to find other people that can do it, instead of expecting the POTUS to travel all over the place a get money. And I hope none of this money is helping Baucus, Bayh, and the other fake dems.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 04:40 PM
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38. He's the President and the leader of his party.
He should do what he can to help it.

What's your point?
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 09:19 PM
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48. As President he is leader of our party. He isn't being pimped out
it is his job. I'm glad he is out there raising money that the DNC can give to Democrats in tough 2010 races. Sure he takes some heat for it as has every president before him. Big deal. He can take it.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:37 PM
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6. The stupid fundraiser
Edited on Tue Oct-20-09 02:41 PM by peaches2003
was last week when Obama spent less than 4 hours in NOLA and went on to a fundraiser in San Franciscon. After making NOLA recovery a priority in his campaign, his first trip there was 9 months after he was sworn in and for a laughingly short time. Then flew off to a fundraiser?? Who is advising Obama? They should be fired. Actually, Obama should have been smart enough to say 'no' to this stupid plan.
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:40 PM
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10. It was not a great move but don't blame his advisers.
He does not strike me as someone who blindly follows them.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:43 PM
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12. I agree
I edited my post before I saw yours. You are right and I should have said so immediately. Obama should never have gone along with this, especially after being so critical of Bush (who deserved every bit of criticism).
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coconut22 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 04:55 PM
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39. Presidents always do this...
the Cons just are saying it for the unknowing and the dramatics. They are throwing anything out and waiting to see what sticks. They are desperate and the poll numbers today isn't helping any they are really angry.I tuned in this morning just to laugh at fox and friends who were grasping for anything...
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 05:02 PM
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41. FOX was grasping for something
alright it was their pants from around their ankles you heard their faithful Mr Rush Limbitch tell them they had to drop their pants and grab their ankles what a disgusting sight
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coconut22 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 05:04 PM
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42. Maybe Limbitch needs ,,
a little help from Fox and Friends :rofl:
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:38 PM
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7. Especially FOX who would love to see DNC raising less money?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:39 PM
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8. The GOP did the same fucking thing with BUSH. Until he fucked up the world
then they tried to run from his ass.
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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:50 PM
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14. MSNBC claims Obama has bush beat. 22-6 during the same amount of time so far.
Something about McCain/Feingold making it harder to raise money.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 03:46 PM
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33. Sounds good to me. We have a lot of hardwork to do un fucking up what bush did.
That's gonna take tons of campaign cash.

It's hard work.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 06:05 PM
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47. That's because Bush was getting drunk on the ranch in 2001.
From January to September 2001, he spent 96 days (40% of his presidency up until then) on vacation.
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 08:35 AM
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54. They miss one thing...
Bush had 9-11 at the same point in his presidency. He didn't need to go out and do any fund-raising. How soon they forget. Or, should I say, "How easily they ignore?"
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:40 PM
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9. Don't you realize that MSM bashes Obama now matter what he does???
News outlets calling him a hypocrite-- so he should behave in ways to avoid media criticism?

Yeah, that'll work... :eyes:
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:52 PM
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15. Welcome to DU!
Don't worry about the fund raisers. All of the Presidents have had to do them. Worry when Obama invades another country on a pack of lies and cleans out the savings of Americans. On second thought, I may be too late on the warning. The last pResident beat him to it.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:53 PM
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16. I like how you managed to get "pimp" and "Obama" in the same subject line.
Thank you for your concern. Enjoy your stay.

Betcha you thought if you just refrained from calling him an "uppity n----r" we wouldn't figure you out, huh?
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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:57 PM
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19. Ummmmmm, I'm black. R u trying to be offensive? wow, where did that come from? nt
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 03:35 PM
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28. It came from the title of your OP.
Duh.
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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 03:39 PM
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30. That's how I talk. I'm sorry. It fit for the moment. But for someone to say I want
to call anyone an uppity ___________ is offensive. Not to mention that it probably did not come from another person of color.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 03:41 PM
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31. And you don't see the offensiveness of your OP? n/t
Edited on Tue Oct-20-09 03:42 PM by JTFrog
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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 03:45 PM
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32. The DNC is asking too much of the man. They put him out to bring in money. What does that sound like
? They need to find innovative ways to bring in the cash. Stop asking the man to go all over the place to bring in money.

I give up
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:53 PM
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17. Demand 100% public financing then.
Otherwise you're talkin' loud and sayin' nothin'.

The media can go ignore for high levels of stupidity and hypocrisy. The reaction to Obama trying (and failing due to events) to take a little vacation was very telling. Bush was on vacation a a 1/3 of his term jacking around with brush and golfing but Obama who has a young family was bashed all over the place for trying to spend a week with his kids during the summer.

The corporate media spends zero time bashing Republicans for raising money from whoever nor do they cry out for public financing but they still have the nerve to roll out this bogus ass narrative. Another nontroversy and that includes the one after he toured Louisiana. If you think he didn't spend enough time then fair enough but it makes not an iota of difference what he did once the plane took off.
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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:59 PM
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21. I still don't understand how public financing would work. If it works like it sounds I'm against it.
I have no problem with both parties raising money, its the DNC depending on the POTUS to raise all of the money that I have a problem with. He's one man with a lot on his plate.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 03:11 PM
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23. It works (or should) probably the way you think it sounds.
If you can meet the criteria to get on the ballot then you are given X amount of dollars to compete against the other qualified candidates. All the money must be publicly accounted for and not a dime extra can be spent. This money isn't raised from a solitary individual but available from the treasury (or however you want to hold the money).

I for one want the money out the equation. I don't need Max Baucus rigging the game for big insurance, Dick Shelby selling his soul and constituents for Toyota, or whatever because it is horrible for democracy and acting in the best interest of the people. There are enough differences to worked out and compromised by the conflicts in different regions and whatnot without having our leaders bogged down in protecting contributions too.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 03:04 PM
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22. "News outlets" call him every name in the book. As long as he continues with his tough message to
Wall St., it's on THEM to contribute to the DNC. He's not a hypocrite for being tough on those who still want to donate.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 03:28 PM
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26. I appreciate your concern and will give it all the consideration it so richly deserves. NT
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 03:28 PM
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27. your concern is duly noted
:eyes:
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 01:45 PM
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59. +1000 . Why does anyone think people are fooled by "Concern Troll" behavior anymore...
:eyes:

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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 03:35 PM
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29. at least a few people agreed w/ me. I really wasn't trying to start an argument. I thought we all
would agree on this. I just hope in the future the DNC can find other spokesmen/women that can raise money and not depend on POTUS for everything. And I hope none of this is going to elect more conservadems.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 03:48 PM
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34. They just have to becareful and not run his brand into the ground. But
I have no problems with it right now. I may later but not now.
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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 03:49 PM
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35. That was perfectly put. That's basically what I was trying to say. nt
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 04:31 PM
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36. Which news outlets are reporting it?
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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 04:39 PM
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37. MSNBC and CNN. MSNBC spent a lot of time on it this afternoon nt
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 04:59 PM
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40. Either it's your first time at the rodeo, or you're being disingeneous with your "concern"
#1 All politicians fundraise. It's how they pay for campaigns, win elections and then get to implement the policies they think are better for the country.

#2 When a President from either party is in office, they are the leader of the party. Yes, Tim Kaine is the chairman of the DNC, but he was appointed by Obama. In comparison, when a party is not occupying the executive office, national party members vote for whom they want to lead them, as is the case with the cynical and bumble-headed move to vote in Michael Steele.

Get a grip. Turn off the talking heads on TV -- they'll drum up any controversy right now as their ratings are abyssmal and they have to trump up controversy where they can get it.

#3. Whether Obama was doing the fundraising or not doing it, there are quite a few cablecritters who would be bitching about it anyway. Imagine this meme: "Obama, who promised transparency in his administration, is handing off the dirty work of raising funds for Senate and Congressional campaigns to former President Clinton and former Vice President Al Gore. Maybe the new, young President is feeling overwhelmed by his duel responsibilities as President of all Americans and leader of the Democratic Party."

See what I mean???? Doesn't matter what he does, just like Clinton you'll see hand-wringing over every, single solitary move for the next 7+ years.
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LovinLife Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 05:21 PM
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43. I'm disingeneous with my concern? So now I'm pretending ? OK, I give up. Ed Schultz just had it on
by the way. Maybe he's pretending to be concerned as well.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 05:40 PM
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45. He also booked the egomaniac Ralph Nader on his show today, too.
So, while great, Ed is not perfect and makes MISTAKES like the rest of us.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 05:25 PM
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44. I think Obama should have *more* fundraisers. (nt)
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 05:52 PM
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46. President Obama is the Head of the Democratic Party and He Should Do Fundraisers
Former President Clinton is currently campaigning in both NJ and VA for the governors races. He's also done several fundraisers and will campaign for Democratic candidates in 2010.

As for the media calling President Obama a hypocrite? If the phrase "whoopty-fuckin'-do" didn't already exists, we'd have to make up for this...

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 07:02 AM
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51. (love your user name)
Thought you might be from Chicago, but I see you're one of our brave Dixie Dems.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 09:46 PM
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49. If he didn't vigorously campaign and fund-raise he'd be excoriated
for doing nothing.

He's entirely within zone and damned effective at it to boot.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 09:49 PM
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50. When Reagan was alive all he had to do was show up at a GOP fundraiser
and cash would fall from the heavens by the metric ton.

Now Reagan's long dead and we got us our own clean-up hitter. I say we run the score up and ring that goddamned cash register for all it's worth.
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 08:12 AM
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52. 22 so far
Know how many W had by this point in his first term?

6.
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 08:29 AM
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53. Dubya was busy
I think Dubya was too busy clearing brush all summer to do fund-raisers back then.

And then something happened back then in mid-September that pretty much killed Dubya fund-raisers, I imagine, for a while at least.

So the comparison of Obama vs. Bush at the same time is completely disingenuous, as far as I'm concerned. Apparently, Obama is smart enough and energetic enough to fight for healthcare reform, deal with the economy, win the Nobel Prize by improving our world image, etc. etc., while still doing that part of his job that requires he lead the Democratic Party.

But hey, let the media continue to try revising Dubya's image. Let them try to pretend Bush worked harder than Obama. What a laugh. I'm pretty sure that will be another massive fail with the American people. And the more they offer such ridiculous tripe, the more Americans realize what dreck the media is spitting out.
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 08:59 AM
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57. 22 is a lot
I am not sure if its that bad, but it is a lot.
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 09:32 AM
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58. Thank goodness he can multitask
Frankly, he seems like one of the busiest presidents of my lifetime. Perhaps the fact that I needed to be told how many fundraisers he's done - rather than thinking of him as always doing fundraisers - demonstrates that he can do fundraisers AND work extremely hard at the same time. I'm pretty rabid, but I had no idea he's been doing fundraisers in the background. But I am completely aware, on the other hand, of how much he's been working to get important things done.

I don't give a crap if he's out fundraising for the party as long as he's doing his job. And I wouldn't for a second suggest he's not working hard at the "real" part of the job, i.e. fixing all the mess left by the former administration.

That's one of the reasons I voted for him. He can multitask his ass off.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 08:53 AM
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56. Part of a president's role is leader of his party which involves raising money. All presidents do
it.
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