Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Nobel Committee Head Asks "Who Did More?"

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 03:27 PM
Original message
Nobel Committee Head Asks "Who Did More?"
Yesterday, four of the five members of the Nobel Committee responded to the largely U.S. controversy over the selection of President Obama as this year�s recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize. “The question we have to ask�, said Thorbjoern Jagland, head of the Committee, "is who has done the most in the previous year to enhance peace in the world, and who has done more than Barack Obama?”

In fact, world leaders and past Nobel winners have reacted positively, with the Committee noting that "much of the criticism is coming from the media and Obama’s political rivals." “I take note of it. My response is only the judgment of the committee, which was unanimous,” Jagland said. Aagot Valle, another of the five panelists said of critics: “Where do these people come from?"

Alfred Nobel, a Swedish arms manufacturer and the inventor of dynamite, stipulated in his 1895 will that much of his vast fortune be used to establish five prizes, one of which was to go “to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between the nations and the abolition or reduction of standing armies and the formation and spreading of peace congresses.”

Mr. Jagland said the committee considered a record pool of 205 nominations and had “several candidates until the last minute,” but it became more obvious that “we couldn’t get around these deep changes that are taking place” under Mr. Obama.

Perhaps what his US detractors really find unfair is the complete repudiation of the foreign policy of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al. In order to understand the movement towards peace that President Obama has made, you must first accept the catastrophic trajectory of endless war that we were on. And while many justify his actions because of September 11, the truth is his administration put us on that path early in 2001 as he rejected the 1972 ABM Treaty in May of 2001 and announced his intention to begin nuclear testing as early as June 2001. His disengagement from almost all international institutions only accelerated after 9/11, which doesn't even include the horrific acts associated with the Iraq War or the massive number of suppressed and altered reports on everything from Abu Ghraib to climate change.

Contrast that with the movement made by President Obama, and the decision of the Nobel Committee becomes insightful and lucid. As Mr. Jagland said, ”Can someone tell me who did more than him this year? It is difficult to name a winner of the peace prize who is more in line with Alfred Nobel’s will."

So just what is it that Barack Obama has done to move the world towards peace?

(Hat Tip to w8ghtliftinglady and her LTTE)

Jan 21 Met with military leaders to instruct engage in additional planning necessary to execute a responsible military drawdown from Iraq with a final plan detailed on Feb 27 wherein combat troops would be removed by Aug 2010 with 35,000-50,000 support troops remaining until 2011.
Jan. 22, Appointed a Special Envoy for Middle East peace;
Jan. 22, Review and Disposition of Individuals Detained at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base and Closure of Detention Facilities
Jan. 22, Revoked Executive Order 13440 of July 20,2007 and ordered that all interrogatiwill comply with the Geneva Conventions and Army Field Manual, ordered the CIA to close as expeditiously as possible any detentifacilities that it currently operates and shall not operate any such detentifacility in the future, established a Special Task Force Interrogatiand Transfer Policies to review interrogatiand transfer policies.
Jan. 23, Lifted "Global Gag Rule", instantly improving the health of billions of women and children around the world
Jan. 26, Signed Energy Independence and Security Act, addressing climate change and increasing fuel standards for automobiles;
Feb. 5, Required Dept of Energy to implement 2005 appliance and equipment standards and implement deadlines for equipment standards in the 2007 Energy Act.
Feb. 25, Joined 140 nations in signing a UN legally-binding pact to cut toxic mercury emissions.
Mar 30 Appointed special envoy to Sudan to explore peace talks in Darfur
April 1 Negotiated framework for the United States and Russia to lay the groundwork for a follow-up treaty to further reduce nuclear weapons stockpiles and signed a Joint Understanding in Sept that defines the reduction goals.
April 2, Led G20 response to the global economic crisis obtaining commitments of $1.1 trillion
April 4, Renewed dialog with NATO and other key allies gaining support for Afghan strategy
April 5, Historic Praque speech when he announced new strategy to responsible address international nuclear proliferatiand commitment to American ratificatiof the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty and a nuclear free world
April 12 Ordered rescue of Capt. Richard Phillips from Somali pirates without creating an international incident.
April 13 Lifted travel and remittance restrictions for Cuban families, establish fiber optic and satellite communications and equipment export, increased eligible humanitarian donations.
May 8, Proposed International Affairs budget that included funds to create a civilian response corps teams of civilian experts in rule of law, policing, transitional governance, economics, engineering, and other areas critical to helping rebuild war-torn societies; Provide $40 million for a �stabilization bridge fund, which would provide rapid response funds for the State Department to help stabilize a crisis situation.
June 4, Historic address to the Muslim World in Cairo following historic interview with Al Arabiya in January, making clear that �American is not at war with Islam� while challenging the Middle East to take concrete steps towards peace.
June 12 Removed Marxist-Leninist designation from Cambodia and Laos
June 17 Ordered federal benefits be extended to all gay federal employees wherever currently legal to do so, setting an international precedent in gay rights.
July 6 Presidents Obama and Medvedev agreed to create a new strategic framework for military-to-military engagement between the United States and the Russian Federation, agreed to a new, comprehensive, legally binding agreement on reducing and limiting strategic offensive arms to replace the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START), which expires on December 5, 2009 and agreed to create a Bilateral Presidential Commission, which will be coordinated by Secretary of State Clinton and Foreign Minister Lavrov, with working groups on issues ranging from agriculture to energy to space cooperation and cultural exchanges.
Aug. 4, Used all diplomatic resources available to free two American journalists from a North Korea prison.
Aug 18 Joined with Canada and Mexico in a Declaration on Climate Change and Clean Energy which commits the three countries to alternative energy advancements as well as developing a grid to transport renewable energy among the three countries.
Sept. 18 Announced a new phased, adaptive approach for missile defense in Europe prompting Russia to withdraw its missile plan.
Sept 24 Set the world on a path of ending subsidies for fossil fuels at the G20 meeting in Pittsburgh.
Sept 24 Chaired historic meeting of the United Nations Security Council with all 15 nations signing Nuclear Weapons Resolution 1887 which will rid the world of nuclear weapons and materials, signed Joint Understanding with Russia.


http://obama-mamas.com/blog/?p=423
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 03:30 PM
Response to Original message
1. Thank you, sandnsea and w8ghtliftinglady!
This is stellar compilation of reality. Need to send this to Matt Taibbi if I knew his email.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 03:31 PM
Response to Original message
2. That list is pretty nice. K&R&nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. yeah, none of them are a stretch or anything. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Even better! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 03:33 PM
Response to Original message
3. Awesome!
I love this bit: In fact, world leaders and past Nobel winners have reacted positively, with the Committee noting that "much of the criticism is coming from the media and Obama’s political rivals." “I take note of it. My response is only the judgment of the committee, which was unanimous,” Jagland said. Aagot Valle, another of the five panelists said of critics: “Where do these people come from?"

If it wasn't so wordy, I'd have a t-shirt made:)

I may print this out and anonymously post it in the kitchen at work:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ajaye Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Along with
Barney Frank's comment...on what planet do you reside?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 03:38 PM
Response to Original message
5. Thank you for this. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 03:44 PM
Response to Original message
8. but, but, but... SNL says he's done nothing
Edited on Wed Oct-14-09 03:44 PM by renate
I just don't know who to believe any more--the mainstream media or the facts.

(just to be sure: :sarcasm: )
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Yes and some here who refuse to acknowledge ANY accomplishment
say the same.

I say the Committee should stop trying to explain it to those who simply ignore their reasoning.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 04:42 PM
Response to Original message
10. History will prove them right, I have doubt about that. NT
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 04:59 PM
Response to Original message
11. They come from the point of view that corporations should rule over We the People's government.
That's why we call them the corporate media, their clients are corporations, the American People are only customers or consumers to be sold a product, candidate or down the river.

Anything that can be portrayed as weakening a Democratic Administration even if it's good news will used for that purpose as a means of enabling corporate supremacist Republicans to power.

"In fact, world leaders and past Nobel winners have reacted positively, with the Committee noting that "much of the criticism is coming from the media and Obama’s political rivals." “I take note of it. My response is only the judgment of the committee, which was unanimous,” Jagland said. Aagot Valle, another of the five panelists said of critics: “Where do these people come from?"


Thanks for the thread, sandnsea.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 05:19 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Oh yes, the ccrporatemedia has made that
abundantly clear. There's also some on the so called left who are not getting it but thankfully Michael Moore does.

"Get Off Obama's Back ...second thoughts from Michael Moore"

Who goes on to say at the end..

"My prediction for the future? You become the first two-time winner of the Nobel Peace Prize!, Yeah!"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8695710

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 05:27 PM
Response to Original message
13. K&R
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 05:36 PM
Response to Original message
14. Thank you, Sandnsea! Saving this for later but I'm so glad
to see the committee still strongly defends their choice. I say it once and I'll say it a thousand times: they followed Nobel's will!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 06:31 PM
Response to Original message
15. And don't forget, Obama
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. Riiight.
Right out of the Orwellian nightmare playbook.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 07:07 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. Seems like a lot of the bush admin's modus operandi
infiltrated more of our society than I previously thought. Or maybe the high that comes from bashing is just too addictive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-15-09 07:43 AM
Response to Original message
18. "much of the criticism is coming from the media and Obama’s political rivals."
THAT explains it all - it's the GOOP and their corprat-pwned media. Pfft!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 06th 2024, 04:21 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC