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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:37 PM
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White House Talks DADT Repeal With Lieberman

White House Talks DADT Repeal With Lieberman

By Kerry Eleveld

Shortly after President Barack Obama pledged Saturday to end “don’t ask, don’t tell,” the Administration’s highest-ranking LGBT official said the White House is speaking with certain senators about strategies for repealing the policy -- specifically Sen. Joseph Lieberman, an independent from Connecticut, who sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

“On ‘don’t ask, don’t tell,’ this administration is talking directly to the Hill -- we are in direct discussions with Senator Lieberman,” John Berry, the director of the Office of Personnel Management, told The Advocate.

A spokesman for Senator Lieberman confirmed that the senator had been speaking to the White House about the bill. “Senator Lieberman has had discussions with representatives of the Administration and others on the best way to reverse this policy, which he has opposed since it was first proposed in 1993,” said Marshall Wittmann, Lieberman’s press secretary. Wittmann gave no further information on the senator’s plans regarding the legislation.

A House repeal bill that was introduced in March is being carried by Rep. Patrick Murphy, a Democrat from Pennsylvania, and currently has 177 sponsors.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:38 PM
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1. Lieberman better not try
to screw with this.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:48 PM
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2. I don't think he would. This is one issue he has always been right on.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:49 PM
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4. Really? I'm impressed. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:53 PM
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5. That's good..he's got me
shell shocked.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:54 PM
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6. Lieberman cannot be trusted about anything
The man is a POS.

I rather talk to Senator Levin who is planning to hold hearings on DADT, as Kirsten Gillibrand has said, than a man that is on a par with Zell Miller.
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 01:18 AM
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36. +1 ... many times over! n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:49 PM
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3. My rights will now depend on the puke Holy Joe?
We might get better results with a direct line to Lucifer.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:05 PM
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12. Wow, so only a certain person is allowed to address the issue? n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:19 PM
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18. Holy Joe is a traitor like Zell Miller. He is no progressive since he went to the Dark Side
What's next for the WH can do no wrong cohort?
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 12:17 AM
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35. finally, some sense from you.
Joe should be drawn and quartered.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:55 PM
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7. Yay. Finally. Someone is talking to someone about DOING it.
n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:57 PM
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8. Lieberman is Homeland Security, while Levin leads the committee will hold DADT hearings
as he promised Kirsten Gillibrand.

Lieberman is nothing more than a suicide bomber when it comes to our issues.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 07:59 PM
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9. I don't like him any more than you do
but he's always been rock solid on LGBT issues. Even before he was a Senator.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:05 PM
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13. this must be one of the reasons the far right would have none of it
when McCain was supposedly pondering asking Lieberman to be his vice presidential running mate according to several behind-the- scenes, campaign 2008 books i have recently read. isn't he reliably pro-choice as well? I should know this because i get to vote for him or not here in CT.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:21 PM
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yes, he's also pro choice
I imagine Obama is deliberately publicizing this because Lieberman carries some cred with the right on military matters. If Lieberman can bring a handful of Repubs with him then we are more than over the top, filibuster-wise.



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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:06 PM
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14. Levin's committee has jurisdiction over Armed Services not Lieberman's Gestapo committee
There is nothing rock solid about this POS other than what's in it for him.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:13 PM
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15. Armed Services Committee
DEMOCRATS

Carl Levin (Michigan)
Chairman

Robert C. Byrd (West Virginia)
Joseph I. Lieberman (Connecticut)
Jack Reed (Rhode Island)
Daniel K. Akaka (Hawaii)
Bill Nelson (Florida)
Ben Nelson (Nebraska)
Evan Bayh (Indiana)
Jim Webb (Virginia)
Claire McCaskill (Missouri)
Mark Udall (Colorado)
Kay R. Hagan (North Carolina)
Mark Begich (Alaska)
Roland W. Burris (Illinois)
Paul G. Kirk, Jr. (Massachusetts)




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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:16 PM
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16. +Infinity. Simple, straightforward, and to the damned point. n/t
Edited on Mon Oct-12-09 08:17 PM by vaberella
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:18 PM
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17. So talk to Levin and FUCK LIEBERMAN!
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:22 PM
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20. I'm glad your not in Congress. Secondly, you don't know if they haven't.
Edited on Mon Oct-12-09 08:28 PM by vaberella
The article just states Lieberman, but that doesn't mean Obama didn't outreach all the people on the committee...the writer probably picked Lieberman due to the surprise it would cause. Secondly, Levin doesn't have a stellar track record here: http://www.zimbio.com/Senator+Carl+Levin+of+Michigan/articles/24/Democrat+Cold+Feet+on+DADT
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:22 PM
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21. They are lining up the votes.....doh!
Edited on Mon Oct-12-09 08:23 PM by FrenchieCat
They already have Levin's vote.

I don't even think this is chess.....more like poker.
No need to call for a vote until the ones you can sway
but aren't sure about have been talked to.

Now it appears that the White House can only talk to those
who are willing to vote as they would vote anyways?

Geeze......

Determined as you might be, Politically astute, you aren't.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:25 PM
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24. Lining up the votes like they did on the Public Option. Gee, that's a relief!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:28 PM
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25. I believe that the Public Option has passed 4 out of 5 committees,,,,,,
and tomorrow the bill before the Senate Finance Committee will pass in the only way that it could have passed...... and that's further than we have ever gotten before.....so yeah.....they are talking to members who they are not sure are on board, and trying to get them on board. It would be stupid not to. Real stupid.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:31 PM
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28. This is a relatively simple bill compared to HCR
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:34 PM
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30. There is nothing simple when it comes to LGBT rights
and I fully expect Lieberman to drive that dagger of his deep into our collective backs.

:yoiks:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:41 PM
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31. it's fairly cut and dried
the statute gets repealed or it doesn't. Read Murphy's HR 1283.

What's good about this is this is the first time the WH has let slip to the press that there are concrete discussions and headcounting under way. It starts the ball rolling.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:46 PM
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32. Levin is supposed to hold hearings--let's see how Lieberman behaves
and if you are right, we all win. If you are wrong, don't say I didn't tell you to not trust that double talking POS.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:51 PM
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33. I think the important thing is that Obama is now willing to demonstrate to the press
that he is actively engaged in DOING something on the issue. If this report is accurate (and it's from a NAMED source, which is a good thing) and if it is followed by further progress, it means the WH has moved the issue from the backburner to the front. This is exactly what we all have been asking Obama to do. So I take this as an encouraging sign.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:53 PM
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34. Some people believe that Jesus coming back soon, ruggerson
I think he is buried in his hometown.

I only trust deeds, not words.
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soccermomforobama Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:03 PM
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10. Wonderful news!!!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:04 PM
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11. Lieberman's committee has no jurisdiction over Armed Services
This is a disaster if the White House wants to involve this traitor.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:24 PM
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22. Calm down.
This is good news. Wait is that why you're upset?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:25 PM
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23. Lieberman is on the committee.......
plueaze.....learn the facts PRIOR to making your points.
You'll look more prepared, instead of simply looking for the negative
as though politics is like elementary school. It may be similar in some ways,
but not when it comes to the rules on the playground.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:21 PM
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19. K&R. Lieberman better earn his position. n/t
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:29 PM
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26. I think, strategically, it's a smart move
we all may hate Lieberman, but pukes like McCain and Graham are close to him. Having Lieberman partially spearhead this gives some cover to Repubs who may be wavering.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:33 PM
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29. I agree...
he WILL be on our side on this and since he IS so RW on other issues, it WILL give some cover to those who are wavering.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 08:29 PM
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27. I trust him as far as I trust Hamas
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 10:03 AM
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37. Lieberman is a jerk, but he'd be a good choice for lead sponsor
he's has good record on gay issues and in this case hawkish foreign policy stances are asset from attacks from the right.
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