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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 01:55 PM
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I am so sick of pollsters finding out what % of WHITE people support a policy of Obama's.
Edited on Thu Oct-08-09 02:02 PM by jenmito
Does anyone remember pollsters asking what % of BLACK people support BUSH'S (or any other white president's) policies? People are people. If pollsters wanna play that game, I wish they'd also ask Black people about how they feel about Repub. policies or positions on different issues! And I fully expect them to poll Black people separately from White people when there's a WHITE president to show their disapproval. `
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:01 PM
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1. I think polls always ask demographic information.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:04 PM
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3. Really? I don't recall polls being accompanied by explanations of how many BLACK people
feel about different policies of BUSH. If you look at any poll, even TODAY, they all talk about the % of white voters vs. "all" voters.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:43 PM
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18. Precisely. They're trying to use racism as a wedge.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:03 PM
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2. The election last year was the worst
It was all about the white "working-class" voters and how Obama couldn't seal the deal with them!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:08 PM
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5. I know...
and the pundits talk about the "white working class" and how Obama "doesn't relate" to them to this day!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:05 PM
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4. Actually, they did a lot of that during the Bush Regime...
And Stephanie Miller was quite fond of pointing out the fact that the percentage of black supporters fell within the margin of error, so it is quite possible that there are yet-to-be-born black people who hate Bush in egg form from the ovary... paraphrasing... she said it in a much more humorous fashion:)
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:09 PM
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6. With every/nearly every poll? n/t
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:15 PM
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10. You have to dig in the results...
But I saw dozens of them... see my other post of the snip from a Steph Miller interview... she still brings this up from time to time, and she brought it up a lot during Bush's last six years or so.

But of course the damn left leaning media never bother to point to those particular statistics... until now, when it serves an evil KKK purpose.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:19 PM
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13. Well, you don't have to dig in polls about Obama. The pollster writes about it right in
the first couple paragraphs.

Yeah, I agree about the media.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:41 PM
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16. All this hate must be hard on the Obamas...
We are so fortunate they are strong, and brilliant people. There is a lot resting on them, not just policy and running a country, but this is uncharted waters for us all. How he reacts to all this stupid racil bullshit will set the tone for a long time. That he is such a brilliant communicator is a huge blessing.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:45 PM
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19. I have a feeling they just...
chalking it up to ignorance.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:46 PM
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20. I certainly hope that is so!
It's encouraging to think that.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:47 PM
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21. I doubt they would've made it this far
if it bothered them.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:56 PM
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26. Good point...
It would have shown up in how they behave and speak. Obama has been terse with idiots, but that's about as far as it goes... I love him when he's terse! LOL!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 03:05 PM
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27. Yup...
I feel the same way-especially about when he's terse. :D
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:13 PM
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7. If people are going to claim that opposition to Obama is based on racism,
wouldn't this be handy info to have to either support or refute the argument?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:13 PM
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8. Found something for you... an interview with Steph Miller...
Edited on Thu Oct-08-09 02:59 PM by JuniperLea
Q: Bush’s numbers are real low right now. What do you make of the people who are still with him at this late date?


Miller: That is the question: Who are these people? What do they think he’s done a good job at? I’m trying to be fair, but what is he good at? You look at Iraq, you look at Katrina. His appointments, Michael Brown. I don’t know where to start. I have Bush Administration Attention Outrage Deficit Disorder.

My personal favorite poll number is the President’s 2 percent approval rating among blacks. Which is within the margin of error. Which leads to all sorts of mind-boggling possibilities, scientifically: Is it possible that more black people hate the President than are actually alive today?

Do you think black ghosts are coming back to hate him?

Do you think they can read black sonograms at this point?

Are doctors saying, “We don’t know if this is a boy or a girl, but we know this baby hates George W. Bush”?


http://www.progressive.org/mag_intv0906
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:22 PM
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14. That's funny...
and I love Stephanie Miller. But like you said, you gotta DIG for those stats.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:37 PM
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15. That's the key part of this issue...
That we have to dig... they cherry pick EVERYTHING. And you can prove just about anything you want to prove if you cherry pick through poll data.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:54 PM
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25. lol!! nice
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:15 PM
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9. It's not that race isn't an issue. DUers are constantly suggesting that all teabaggers are Klansmen.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:19 PM
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12. What?
Are you saying they aren't? Who knew?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:43 PM
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17. Those dots are increasingly easier to connect as time passes...
And the idiots are so emboldened by their own noise, I wouldn't doubt we see actual hooded rallies in public places. I believe they are just that hateful, and stupid.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:14 PM
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28. because of racist attacks against Obama, it's not like they are debating policy issues
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:18 PM
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11. I would be willing to accept this at face value but very early on
Cnn had some poll results. I clearly remember Candy Crowley
explaining very emphatically . It is blacks who do not have
health insurance. Almost immediately all the coverage went
negative against HIR,

I am white, but this reminds me of old explanation about Education
Standards and Grades. "The reason our overall state average is low
is the black children."

In other words nothing has or needs to be done. Excuse my negativity.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:49 PM
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22. I agree, especially in the article you're probably talking about
they said it along with the prediction that the 2010 election would be more "white" than the 2008 election, suggesting that the data for whites was maybe more important.

People are right that demographic data is reported, but if the analysis suggests that some group or other maybe doesn't count as much this time, then of course it is totally out of line.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:51 PM
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24. Yes...
that's the article that pushed me to start this thread.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:51 PM
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23. Yeap!!!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:15 PM
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29. It's a pandering racist wedge..that shouldn't have made
it to this century.
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 02:16 AM
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30. The media loves this shit.
Edited on Fri Oct-09-09 02:16 AM by Lilyeye
You can also look at it in another way...whenever there is a "black" issue, Obama is always tied to it or asked about it some way. Like with the Gates incident...then the young man, who was murdered in Chicago, and also the bus fight between the white boy and the black boys. I can't even read an news article about a black person (if its negative) without people blaming Obama in the comment section. When white criminals were in the news, no one blamed the white Presidents for it or called it "Bush's America". The media is always trying to stir racial strife in some way.
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