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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 12:34 AM
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Joe Lieberman May Hold Hearings On Obama’s “Czar” Problem
This shit out of control. Of course, all those who defended Feingold's actions and disbaraged those of us that questioned the prudenced his hearing as cheerleaders for daring to question a "real" Democrat, will no doubt support Joe just doing his job?


Hey, so guess who is mulling new legislation to solve the alleged problem of Obama’s “czars”? Joe Lieberman!

He may even hold hearings on the czars, as the chair of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. Since this will confer legitimacy on an attack that has mostly emanated from Glenn Beck and the hothouse right, it could prompt an “I told you so” chorus from those who argued that Lieberman should be stripped of his committee slots.

Leslie Phillips, a spokesperson for Lieberman’s committee, confirms by email that Lieberman’s legislation is “in the early conceptual stage.” She also said a hearing is in the works, with its schedule up the air until the committee can nail down witnesses.

Lieberman signaled his intentions last week, but his comments passed unnoticed, and they’re newly relevant in light of the fact that Russ Feingold drew new attention to the issue by launching hearings yesterday.

In fairness, we don’t know what Lieberman’s goals are; his spokesperson declined to clarify. Still, the fact that Lieberman is mulling hearings at all is likely to provoke objections. Yesterday, the White House made a strong case to Feingold that the czar criticism has zero merit, and his hearing yesterday ended up supporting that assessment.


http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/joe-lieberman-to-hold-hearings-on-obamas-czar-problem/
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 12:45 AM
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1. When is this turd up for reelection again? I sure HOPE the
people from his state realize what a mistake they made!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 12:48 AM
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2. 2012
Connecticut-

Pleeeeeeze...
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 12:51 AM
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3. Yeah, we know. My own parents voted for him.
We have a good Attorney General here polling well against him. Loserman had a lot of conservatives and moderates vote for him last time.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 01:08 AM
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5. Are your parents regreting doing so? n/t
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 01:19 AM
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7. Nope. They love Faux news, Beck, Rush, etc.
My parents have no idea why they have a liberal (me) and an anarchist (my brother) for children. LOL. They are hoping the conservative gene will pass to my kids...just kidding, I hope.
I voted for Joe, way back in 2000 when he ran with Gore. Voted for him twice in that election. Then I voted for Lamont.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 10:36 PM
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21. I just love Lamont..had him for my
Avatar for the longest time.
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Baltoman991 Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 01:06 AM
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4. Well, it's only
fair he do so.........I mean, he did hold hearings for Bush's Czars right?

Oh wait, never mind, it never happened. Fuck you Lieberman.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 01:10 AM
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6. Someone should have hearings on Lieberman's diarrhea of the mouth problem
more specifically that he has a problem with it.
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 01:31 AM
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8. When I first saw your headline, I was sure that the link would be
to the "satiricalpolitical" site. But then I realized that Lieberman was involved.
Poor Connecticut.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 01:58 AM
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9. Fabulous.
Well more on here will come on to support Lieberman like they did Feingold in his actions. Just another way to undermine the President and derail the conversation from relevancy to this crap. Thanks Feingold and your partner, Lieberman, in this great topic that is ridiculously important to the American people.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 01:59 AM
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10. 'czars' are 'chiefs' and we all know what too many of THEM can do........
to ANY organization.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 07:59 AM
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14. No, they are actually advisors and executive officials.
They have zero unconstitutional authority. It's a fake issue invented by Glenn Beck and perpetuated by preening scolds like Feingold and Lieberman.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 02:45 AM
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11. Fuck Joe Lieberman
Hope he dies soon.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 07:48 AM
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12. Joe NEVER passes up the chance to appeal to 20% of the population
Edited on Thu Oct-08-09 07:48 AM by Canuckistanian
While simultaneously pissing off the other 80%.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 07:58 AM
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13. thanks a lot, Russ and Joe.
I bet they're sitting at home admiring themselves in the mirror for how 'principled' they are.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 08:01 AM
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15. Lieberman is just being consistent. He did the same thing when Bush had Czars (even more than Obama
Oh wait...
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 09:01 AM
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16. Good.
This investigation should show that:
1) The Bush admin had even more Czars than Obama's.
2) The term Czar gained usage in American bureaucracy during the Nixon (R) administration.
3) That Czar is an informal title. All these "Czars" have other, long ridiculous titles that, if used, would create an ink shortage.
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That Guy 888 Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 09:35 AM
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17. He's just acting like a true member of the DLC...
doing everything he can for repuglicans, while "caucusing" with the Democratic Party. I think everyone here knew what "Petitioning Democrat" Lieberwhore would do once he weaseled his way back into office.

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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 11:56 AM
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18. No way does he get re-elected in 2012-n/t
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 12:00 PM
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19. Joe Liberman - the Democrat's Treason Czar
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 10:35 PM
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20. Besides, doesn't this Panel mean anything to the Senators
investigating the Obama admin?

Cross posted from LBN

RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Tue Oct-06-09 11:30 PM
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Panel finds no fault with Obama system of policy 'czars'
Source: LA Times

In Senate testimony, constitutional experts say the president has the right to appoint independent advisors as long as the distinction between practical and legal authority is rigorously maintained.

Reporting from Washington - Five constitutional experts testified at a Senate hearing Tuesday that President Obama's extensive use of policy "czars" is legal -- as long as the officials do not overstep their authority.

In a city where power is carefully hoarded and monitored, Obama has drawn complaints from Congress about his use of these so-called czars, officials he has appointed to coordinate environmental, health and other policy areas among various departments.

Lawmakers in both parties have sent letters to the White House saying the officials' appointment circumvents Congress' authority to confirm top executive branch officials and subject them to oversight hearings.

But the panel of constitutional experts testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee's subcommittee on the Constitution did not support the complaints.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4093035





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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 10:41 PM
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22. Blame Obama for supporting Lieberman remaining in the Democratic caucus
and blame Harry Reid for giving Lieberman the Chair of Homeland Security Cmte.

Progressives knew that Holy Joe was a piece of shit that should have never been welcomed back into the fold. Lieberman is just another dangerous but kosher version of Zell Miller.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 10:46 PM
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23. No, that's stupid..I'm not going to do that.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-08-09 10:51 PM
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24. It is true!
Do some googling, and review some of the contemporary threads and you will see that I am telling the truth.

Can't blame Lieberman for being Lieberman! You all knew what you were getting with Lieberman when Obama intervened on his behalf, and Reed rewarded Holy Joe with a chairmanship.

Why didn't Reed give someone worthy like Bernie Sanders with a committee chair. Sanders votes progressive.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 12:38 AM
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25. +1 well stated I don't even blame Joe anymore,because if you can treat dems with such utter
disrespect as he has shown over the last few years,and still pull the same bs. Then its the dem leadership thats the problem not foolish Joe.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 05:55 AM
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26. There is a difference between a politician who consistently holds
the executive branch accountable (Feingold) and those who only hold Democrats accountable (Lieberman). If Lieberman had investigated Bush from this very same perch, I would be supporting him now. Since he didn't, I don't. Feingold is a consistent man.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:43 AM
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27. How
Does Lieberman's role as chairman of HS have anything to do with Obama's Czars? Is Lieberman saying that his Czars are a threat to HS? :shrug:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 06:57 AM
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28. LIEberman needs to be tossed overboard.
:nuke:
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 07:37 AM
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29. Well, the Dems are responsible for him still being there. And the people of CT voted for the ass.
Instead of the more liberal guy who was running on the DEMOCRATIC ticket. The Dem Party backed LIEberman.

They deserve all the shit they get from him.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 07:04 PM
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31. The baby will not like all this criticism of the good Senator
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 10:10 AM
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32. But of course Lieberman was fine when George W. bUsh had MORE CZARS than Pres. Obama.
As always, it's ok (anything and everything) as long as you're a republic.
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