Rachel Maddow said any democrat who votes to filibuster with repukes

[ej510]

will lose their chairmanships! If true it is about damn time.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

1. Is that from a Dem official?

Because I have no doubt that any Dem who votes to filibuster SHOULD lose their chairmanships, but I definitely have doubts as to whether they will.

[Clio the Leo]

3. I dont know, but she had a pic. of Harry Reid with a Devo hat on....

.... you know, Devo ..... "Whip it good!"

I'm gonna go look for an article that supports this...........

[SemiCharmedQuark]

4. LOL. I love Rachel!

[SharonAnn]

29. What IS that hat? What does it mean? We were mesmerized but totally confused.

[Clio the Leo]

30. That HAT ...........

.... is a piece of pop treasure!!!

(warning, this video contains LOTS of extremly high waisted jeans)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbt30UnzRWw

It should be Smitsonianized!

I think I may write old Harry tomorrow with the following....

When a problem comes along
You must whip it
Before the cream sits out too long
You must whip it
When something's going wrong
You must whip it

And whip it good!

He may have to get someone to explain it to him though.

[jillan]

31. That was sooooo funny - I will forever have an image of Harry Reid with a Devo hat on his head.

[jenmito]

11. "We can report exclusively tonight that two major power brokers on the left have told MSNBC that

they are encouraging a Senate strategy now in which the leadership would revoke chairmanships and other leadership positions from any Democrat who sides with a Republican filibuster to block a vote on health reform..." Rachel Maddow.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

12. Ehhh....

"encouraging a Senate strategy..."

Not quite a done deal.

Thanks for clarifying.

[AlinPA]

13. That is not the same as Reid making the statement. "Two major powerbrokers

on the left have told MSNBC "does not sound like "Senator Reid has stated...."

[jenmito]

16. Don't kill the messenger. n/t

[ej510]

17. They can always vote for a new senate majority leader.

[Clio the Leo]

15. And those two power brokers are ........

(no, not really, but until I find out otherwise, that's who I'm going to pretend it is! lol)

[jenmito]

19. I wouldn't be surprised...

afterall, reports are that they ARE working behind the scenes on healthcare reform. :hi:

[Clio the Leo]

2. happy dance! happy dance! happy happy dance!!!!

:bounce:

[ej510]

5. She reported it as breaking news, so I believe it is true.

[jenmito]

6. And if they don't hold a chairmanship, any OTHER leadership positions

would be taken away.

[Clio the Leo]

9. And if they dont have leadership positions..........

..... they'll lose their good parking spots. :)

[jenmito]

20. And if they don't have

good parking spots, they'll lose their bathroom privileges. :)

[Clio the Leo]

7. Here's where Sen. Sanders talked about this possibility at the end of August...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6403324&mesg_id=6403324

[Cha]

10. Ah yes, a blast from the

past..thanks Clio.

[Ineeda]

8. About time the Dems realized who won the election and got tough. n/t

[MiniMe]

14. I think they will be OK with the Senator voting against the bill, as long as they don't filibuster

The dems have at least 50 votes, and if it comes down to it, Biden will vote for the bill.

[Clio the Leo]

18. The general concensus I've gleaned.........

.... from those in the know .... is they dont think any of the Blue Dogs will have the balls (blue balls?) ... to vote AGAINST cloture.

[Clio the Leo]

21. And anyone interested in reading the Dark Side's reaction to this...

.... I found it while Googleing support for Rachel's claim..... quite funny. They're are almost as excited about as we are .... it's like that scene where the Jets and Sharks meet under the highway in West Side Story (har har.)

Or maybe the MJ's "Beat It" video. :)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2357199/posts

[jenmito]

22. Thanks. This response was reasonable:

"Well, this is a critical vote for them. Revoking committee chairs for party members who vote the wrong way on critical votes was S.O.P. for years.

The question is, how come only the Democrats do it? Why is Olympia Snowe still on all those committees? Why hasn’t she been moved to the basement of the Senate office building?

It seems as if the Democrats understand Politics 101, if nothing else."

(But I doubt the part I put in bold is true.)

[Clio the Leo]

23. Well, there's this....

.... to further complicate matters, it has to do with Evan Bayh's 12/08 threat to strip Lieberman of his charimanship (remember that?) ....... apparently, that can only be done via a Senate resolution which ALSO can be filibustered!!! lol

http://www.congressmatters.com/story/2008/12/9/198/-Dont-know-how-I-missed-this-one...

This is TOO fun/funny.

[karynnj]

26. So that means it can't happen

No Republican will vote for cloture and the one losing their chair will not vote for cloture.

[Clio the Leo]

27. Why wouldn't a GOP vote for cloture.......

.... if it involves taking out a powerful Dem rival .... literally taking them from their seat of power?

Oh ...... this whole thing is giving me a headache! lol

[karynnj]

28. Another Democrat will take that chair - maybe one they would like less

and they would say they would do it to make the plan undoable until the next Congress, when the committees are redone. So, the threat would be losing the chair in 2010 after the election, which is less immediate.

In addition, the ones threatened are not the Democrats they would like to lose their committees - ie Kerry, Dodd, Leahy, Schumer or their leadership positions (Reid, Durbin) it would be ones like LIncoln, the Nelsons etc.

[Blasphemer]

24. This shouldn't even be a "strategy"... just political reality

It should go without saying that if a Democrat filibusters with the GOP that they lose any benefits they get from being part of the caucus. It's one thing to vote differently on certain issues or because one doesn't like a particular bill but to break ranks and join a GOP filibuster? Anyone who does that needs to be sent packing.

[karynnj]

25. if true that could help with Lincoln (Ag), Conrad (Budget)

I think all (or most?) at least have chairs of sub-committees.

[Mass]

32. She did not say that. She says 2 powerbreakers in the Senate are pushing this.

No indication whether the leadership is supporting that.

[Phx_Dem]

33. That sounds like a Rahm maneuver. Definitely not a Reid move.

Now we're cooking with gas.

[jenmito]

34. David Shuster just said this came from Harry Reid's office...

and he said that Reid warned any Dem. opposing cloture WILL be stripped of any chairmanships, etc.!