How many Senate Democrats will join the republicans in filibuster of the health care legislation?

[AlinPA]

Some on DU (weeks ago) have said that it would make it through filibuster but we could get 51 votes. What's the thinking now? I'm thinking Lieberman (I) joins the republicans as well as Democrats Lincoln and Nelson (NE). Any more?

[MiniMe]

1. Lieberman isn't a Democrat, he is an independent

[BrklynLiberal]

3. ..as well as a total asshole....

[SemiCharmedQuark]

6. And I would bet my right eye that he will join the Republicans in a filibuster.

[MiniMe]

19. Will he risk his chairmanship?

Per Rachel, the Dem leadership will move to take chairmanships away from any dem who filibusters. I believe that they are free to vote against the bill, but they may be in trouble if they join the R's to filibuster.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

21. She said that two power brokers on the left were encouraging this strategy.

It's not iron clad.

[BrklynLiberal]

22. At this point, I would like to see him removed from his chairmanship soooooo much....

[MiniMe]

Unquestionably an asshole

[AlinPA]

11. I edited in (I) for him, had him separate from the two Democrats. Thanks. nt

[SIMPLYB1980]

2. The Democrats will vote for cloture.

Along with a few republicans.

[IndianaGreen]

7. That's up in the air, isn't it? Blue Dogs are not on our side on this.

[SIMPLYB1980]

10. So I've heard.

But since this post is about prophecy, I though I would do some prophesying.

[Davis_X_Machina]

13. No Blue Dogs per se in Senate n/t

[AlinPA]

16. Rather they are Blue Cross Democrats.

[IndianaGreen]

18. Evan Bayh is in the back pocket of Wellpoint

Bayh's wife sits on the board of several health corporations.

[jenmito]

15. Ben Nelson said he doesn't think the bill should be passed through reconciliation and he did not

rule out joining the Repubs. AGAINST cloture.

[DrToast]

4. What a Debbie Downer. You mean: How many Republicans will break ranks and vote for health care

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/07/bob-dole-health-care-will_n_312837.html

[ej510]

9. Dole wants watered down bullshit legislation.

[AlinPA]

14. I can't argue with that approach to it. nt

[GrantDem]

5. The Dems will fall in line on this one and vote for cloture.

The "bill" will garner 51 on the final vote.

[IndianaGreen]

8. I have little confidence in Harry Reid

I don't think he can deliver.

[MiniMe]

20. Per Rachel, he is threatening chairmanships if they filibuster

He is OK with them not voting for the bill, but not filibustering. Hear that Baucus and Lieberman?

[Davis_X_Machina]

12. None. Sanders votes nay. Lieberman ditto...

...his chairmanships are at risk.

[jenmito]

17. Ben Nelson said he doesn't think the bill should be passed through reconciliation and he did not

say he WOULDN'T vote against cloture.

[backscatter712]

23. My gut of truthiness increasingly says yes.

With the increasing support for the public option, even the conservadems are realizing that they'll be tarred & feathered if they vote against health care reform.

When it comes to a floor vote, there will be an all-out push to get the Dems voting unanimously for cloture, and as Rachel mentioned, there's the threat of losing chairs for those who don't vote for cloture.