A counterblow for all the grinning bastards that SNL recently spawned:

[Jester Messiah]

I found this in my search to correct one of these jackasses. It shows that, while Obama has a long way to go to keep all of his promises, he has at least made a healthy start.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

Submitted in the hopes that others will find it useful.

[Ian David]

1. I want an Obamameter desktop widget! n/t

[Jester Messiah]

2. Hmmm....

depending on how their site is set up, and how friendly it is to scrapers...
*ponders*

[Name removed]

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[Ian David]

4. And IMHO, the Obamameter seems tilted slightly against Obama

For example, I think Number 240 is more of a compromise than a broken promise.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/240/tougher-rules-against-revolving-door-for-lobbyists/

[Cha]

8. Please contact the Obameter folks, Ian..

[e-mail] :patriot::fistbump:

[Cha]

5. Thank you, Jester! Somebody turned me on to that site

and I've been passing it around freely ever since.

<snip>

The Obameter Scorecard
Promise Kept 47
Compromise 11
Promise Broken 7
Stalled 12
In the Works 112
No Action 325

PolitiFact has compiled more than 500 promises that Barack Obama made during the campaign and is tracking their progress on our Obameter.

We rate their status as No Action, In the Works or Stalled. Once we find action is completed, we rate them Promise Kept, Compromise or Promise Broken.

The report card at right provides an up-to-the-minute tally of all the promises.

Other ways to browse the Obameter

All promises
PolitiFact's Top 25 Promises
By Subject
Economy
Energy
Military

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises

[Jester Messiah]

7. Happy to be of help! [nt]

[Engineer4Obama]

6. SNL's biggest crime is still

Having a really really crappy Obama impersonator. The cadence isn't even close and they pass up good joke opportunities for less funny ones out of the right wing play book.

[NYC Liberal]

9. SNL's biggest problem with their political stuff

is that it isn't original. 90% of the political stuff is having Obama or whoever giving a speech. Big whoop.

I remember in the 90s with the Clinton stuff, at least it was original. Like that one with Phil Hartman as Bill, going to the McDonald's and explaining Somalia with the Big Mag and Coke?

Or that one with Reagan. They showed him meeting with some girl scouts acting like a doddering old grandpa and then once the girls were ushered out, he would yell "ALRIGHT, BACK TO WORK!" and start throwing numbers and figures around, screaming at people.

[Cha]

12. My take on SNL with PO is..

with the other Prez' all they had to do was mine the facts..with Obama they have to make up stuff.
and it's not funny.

Course, over the years the crew has changed and its writers who are really the backbone of any performances.

[Cha]

14. They don't do their homework..that's for sure..

Maybe they should consider "Alphacat"?

http://vodpod.com/watch/1364840-alphacat-so-far-the-best-barack-obama-impersonator

[timeforpeace]

10. Toughen up, girls, it's just a comedy show. Thin skinned much?

[Jester Messiah]

11. Ah, another one from the "lie down and take it" school. [nt]

[Cha]

13. I know..it's so stupid when you're told

be tough against the lies, oh and stfu.

[AspenRose]

38. Sexist much?

"Toughen up, girls?" Really?

[saracat]

15. For god's sake, don't some have anything better to do than attack comedians?

SNL doesn't have to be accurate. They are a comedy show! Jon Stewart is right about some, they can't tell the difference between the news media and comedy!Jon isn't always accurate either. Are you going to complain about all the late night comedians as well? Follow around all the stand up acts? Get a grip. You should be more irritated that the Obama impersonator stinks and doesn't do him well at all.

[jgraz]

16. I assume you're using the term "comedian" loosely

The only sin of that routine was that it wasn't funny. SNL should be able to say whatever they want about the President, fair or not.

[saracat]

17. Actually some of the writing was funny.the line about 4 mos to choose a dog was funny. The delivery

sucked. My point is the ridiculousness of anyone taking offense at satire or comedians. They will be outraged at anything mocking Obama. None of these characters were around squealing when SNL mocked Clinton , Kerry , Perosi, Gore or any other Dems.They didn't demand a comedy litmus test for "truth in comedy"!

[Prism]

18. It's full blown creepy is what it is

Fact-checking and distributing talking points and rallying against the "lies".

Over a comedy skit.

Seriously. Creepy.

[Cha]

20. Yeah, real sorry if you Obama bashers

don't like it. Not surprised that you would come to the defense of lies against the president no matter if snl puts them out or not.

[saracat]

22. Are you going to attack obama himself for making fun of his ears?

What about Obam's SNL appearance? Did you fact check it? Did you fact Check the clinton sketch? Keep an eye on Leno.he may say something you don't like. And watch Jon Stewart.he isn't predictable.neither is Conan.

[Cha]

25. Yeah, as usual..trying to change the subject.

[saracat]

27. Nope. As usual your comprehension skills leave much to be desired.

I wasn't replying to you either.

[Cha]

29. No, you change the subject and then you accuse others of not

having comprehension skills.

[saracat]

30. Go do comething contructive.this is nonsense.

[Cha]

31. Now you order people around.

[saracat]

32. Just a suggestion. I'm working on a local campaign. All politics is "local"

No time to worry abouthow comedy satirizes any politician.See Ya:hi:

[Prism]

23. So melodramatic over so little

I didn't "defend" anything. In fact, in a previous thread about the skit, I said some of the jokes weren't fair. I think Iraq would be the most egregious example. But I also know comedians don't often have regard for the truth. What they play on is public perception. Whether you care for it or not, there is a perception out there that the president's actions to date have not matched the lofty promises and rhetoric of the campaign.

It never bothers me when comedians skewer someone I like or admire. What creeps me out about this is the outrage and sense of "My god, they're making fun of him. Someone must do something!"

That's totally crazy. That actually is a component of a personality cult - and I never bought it into that stuff during the campaign (I supported Obama in the primaries from the beginning).

If you want to run around fact-checking every time a comedian does something, that's certainly your prerogative, but don't be surprised if you find the uninitiated staring at you a little strangely and wondering when admiration ran off the rails into full on supplication.

[saracat]

28. Thank you.That is perfectly put.

[joeycola]

35. well said.

[Cha]

19. Oh anohter one who wants us to stfu because they lied about

PO. No big surprise there but guess what?! We're not rolling over for you saracat.

[Jester Messiah]

21. Not attacking SNL

This is a rebuttal to RW idiots who try to use the skit's comedic foundations as if they were actual fact. I've had to deal with a few of those, and reasoned that others might have as well. Thus I posted my OP in the hopes that some would find it useful.

[saracat]

24. But some folks on both sides take this waay too seriously. GOP wants to present it as fact but

remember, they thought Colbert actually was "one of theirs" and sent campaign solicitations out using his quotes.They just looked stupid.Lorne Micheals, gave a lot of money to Obama but he really straddles the fence.I think he donated to mccain as well and for his type of show, thats how it should be.After the favor they did us with Palin, we don't have room to complain.
We just don't need to look stupid by taking comedy seriously.And some are.

[Cha]

26. You did good, Jester, and brought some

of the Obama bashers out of the woodwork to boot.

Under the guise of a "comedic show" so we shouldn't question their lies..just stfu up and let them rule the discourse.

[Jester Messiah]

33. I think the woodwork collapsed...

Good of the mods to cart it out of here. :-)

[Cha]

34. ..

To the mods. :toast:

[dionysus]

36. well, all you do is attack the president, who the hell are you to tell anyone who they can and can't

criticize?

[saracat]

37. Who said they couldn't criticize? They can if they want to. I am free to think it is silly

Some of you OTOH object to ANY criticism of the President. Some are extending this objection to "jokes" or satire.You have the right to do that as well. I also have the right to think that is silly as well.