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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:15 PM
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Right Wing Gillibrand Continues to Destroy Democratic Party
Edited on Tue Oct-06-09 10:20 PM by IndianaGreen
Kirsten rocks!

Right Wing Gillibrand Continues to Destroy Democratic Party

By Steven Thrasher in Featured, Politics


Today, Senator Kirsten Gillibrand blogged about her unyielding support to repeal the military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. We have to wonder, what happened to the too conservative Gillibrand that was once predicted? When Gov. Paterson tapped her from New York's Republican-leaning 20th district, he angered and alienated just about every liberal dynasty and constituency possible: the Kennedys, the Cuomos, Carolyn Maloney, gun control enthusiasts, and anti-smoking advocates. Liberal fears were ripe that the one-time tobacco lawyer and gun owner would put an AK-47 in the hand of every child and a Joe the Camel poster on their bedroom wall. Gays and lesbians were concerned that she wasn't quite there on gay marriage, and she'd voted against repealing DOMA.

Paterson missed a golden opportunity to appoint a future gubernatorial rival, and instead gambled a statewide Senate seat on the most conservative member of New York's house delegation. (He could afford to do that back then -- his approval numbers were comfortably in the double digits.)

And did we get a Blue Dog Democrat? Hardly. Gillibrand blogs on the Huffington Post nearly as often as Nora Ephorn. Her views on gun control "evolved" rather quickly. Civil Unions instead of marriage? That was yesterday. Marriage for everyone, says today's Senator, and toss out DADT while you're at it! She vocally wants a public option for health care. She was one of just seven -- 7! -- senators to vote to continue funding ACORN, inspiring the Post to call her Sen. Jello Brand.

Heck, she's so liberal now she broke with Marty Markowitz, Al Gore and Barack Obama and actually endorsed Bill Thompson for mayor! At this rate, Comrade Gillibrand might even endorse the man who put her on the map, though she's still keeping her cards close to her vest on that one.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2009/10/gillibrand.php

The Right Time to Repeal Don't Ask Don't Tell Is Now

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand
U.S. Senator from New York
Posted: October 5, 2009 06:05 PM


Since 1994, almost 13,000 gay servicemen and women have been discharged from the military based not on their performance but on their sexual orientation. In 2009 alone, we've had more than 400 of our brave men and women leave the military under Don't Ask Don't Tell. This is simply unacceptable. It is time to repeal this outdated and immoral policy once and for all and end the ban on gays and lesbians serving openly and honestly in our armed forces.

To that end, I've secured the commitment from Senator Carl Levin, Chair of the Armed Services Committee, to hold the first hearing on the policy since it began 16 years ago. Chairman Levin expects to hold the hearing soon and it's my hope that it will be instrumental in demonstrating the level of support that exists for repeal not only throughout the country -- where polls consistently indicate that solid majorities oppose the policy -- but within the military itself.

I'm happy to see that, as the Senate Armed Services Committee hearing approaches, there are signs of momentum building toward repeal.

On September 24, Majority Leader Harry Reid sent letters to the president and Secretary Gates reiterating his support for repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell and requesting their recommendations to Congress on the policy. I agree with Senator Reid. I know the president opposes DADT, and I am confident he and his administration will work to engage Congressional and military leaders in this debate.

Then, just last week, an article was published in the Joint Force Quarterly -- a publication considered to be the scholarly journal of the Pentagon and released by the Joint Chiefs -- that goes beyond addressing just Don't Ask Don't Tell, but overtly calls for a repeal of the ban on gays and lesbians serving in the U.S. military. In the article, Air Force Colonel Om Prakash writes:

After a careful examination, there is no scientific evidence to support the claim that unit cohesion will be negatively affected if homosexuals serve openly. Based on this research, it is not time for the administration to reexamine the issue; rather it is time for the administration to examine how to implement the repeal of the ban.

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-kirsten-gillibrand/the-right-time-to-repeal_b_310352.html
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:19 PM
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1. A pleasant surprise.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:21 PM
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2. I donated to her campaign today, and I don't even live in New York
Anyone that stands on our side of the barricades deserves our support, anyone that stands on the opposite side of the barricades, deserves our scorn.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:23 PM
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3. She represents her constituents. While, as Congresswoman, her constituents were fairly conservative,
she now represents the full state of New York, where she has to be elected in jext November.

I have no clue who is the true Kirsten, but who I'm fine with who she is now.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:25 PM
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4. She didn't need the LGBT vote, yet she approached LGBT community
months ago to say that she supported marriage equality. Her deeds matched her words.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 10:26 PM
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5. Whatever happened to her, I hope it happens to Obama. And soon.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 11:23 PM
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6. Amen that.
:popcorn:
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:14 AM
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10. spot on.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:45 AM
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12. k and r.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 11:50 PM
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7. OK, so NOW where's that crew insisting we need...
a primary to get a liberal New York Senator?

I've liked Gillibrand since day one, and she's just getting better as she grows into the job.

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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:12 AM
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8. I have no clue why people were ever so down on Gillibrand
Though I suspect it is a wild over reaction to supporting gun rights because otherwise she seemed pretty liberal compared to the average Democrat in the Senate.
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 10:01 AM
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14. She had the fatal flaw of living north of the NYS Thruway
You mean people really LIVE up there??
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:44 PM
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15. Oh, stop it
fer chrissakes. It was for her NRA friendship (being more conservative than HRC).
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-09-09 02:05 PM
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18. I meant she way shunned by the NYC faction for being an upstater
strictly talking state politics here
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 12:47 AM
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9. Anybody who believes in the median voter theorem knew this would happen
Her old constituency was a fairly conservative congressional district. Her new constituency is the fairly liberal state of New York but she was probably concerned more about a primary challenge than being defeated in the general election. Therefore she has shifted her positions to those of the median voter in the NY 20th to the median voter in a New York Democratic Primary.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 05:44 AM
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11. **SHE ASKS THAT WE SIGN A PETITION TO REPEAL DADT...HERE**...



In the meantime, you can help by joining the effort. In advance of the hearing, I've launched a petition calling for the repeal of DADT. We already have almost 10,000 signatures from people nationwide who are standing with me to show my colleagues that our country is ready to repeal this policy. I hope you'll join us.

I know that many were discouraged by the statement yesterday from National Security Advisor James Jones that President Obama would pursue repeal "at the right time." I believe the right time is now.




http://www.democratsenators.org/o/44/t/825/petition.jsp?petition_KEY=174
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 09:34 AM
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13. I'm sure she'll flip back to a conserva-dem
when it suits her politically.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 04:11 PM
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16. Omit gun rights (which is not a conservative stance) and detail where she has been a conservative
The opposition to her is a knee jerk witch hunt.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-07-09 08:33 PM
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17. Kick! Rachel Maddow has Kirsten on her show right now!
:kick:
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