Orly's Calif hearing before Judge Carter

[Hepburn]

I have no link ~~ heard this via telehone:

Judge took it under submission ~~ but did not order any discovery.

So, gut reation is rather than a dismissal from the bench, he is gonna dismiss in writing.

JMHO

[Hamlette]

1. that's only because he met in private with Holder and is part of the conspiracy to cover up the fact

that Obama is dupe and the whole world is out to get her and hold her to the 15 minutes of fame she got only because she wears so much mascara.

Anyone knows that.

[Hepburn]

2. LOL....

...Holder has been one very busy guy!

Ga with Land, Calif with Carter! :rofl:

[Sky Masterson]

7. WORD!!!!!!!

You cracked it wide the F_ck open!!!! :woohoo: :thumbsup:

[grantcart]

12. They are awaiting instructions from the UN Secretary General

They have come in Korean and need translation.

[davidpdx]

36. Wait, the Koreans are involved?

Let me check with Uncle Park and get back to you....

(for those of you that don't get the joke, I live in Korea. Park is my wife's famly's name)

[xultar]

3. ROFL, he's gonna put it in writing to put her @ a disadvantage...

seeing how she can't read and all...

[euphoria12leo]

6. She can't read because she's stupid

maybe because of those fake eyelashes. Never mind, it's both.



:banghead:

[no_hypocrisy]

4. Can't she be disbarred for making so many errors?

Mail order diploma is irrelevent. She is practicing law in a substandard manner.

[Hepburn]

5. There is a petn pending before the CalBar to disbar her.

Here is a link:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/15546236/Taitz-State-Bar-Complaint

[ladywnch]

8. Hepburn, how strong do you think this petition is? Is there any

real chance that the State will act on this... are their points valid? Is there a time frame in which they (the board) must repond to the petition?

[Hepburn]

9. When I was in practice....

...I was a probation monitor for the CalBar. IMO, this petn is exceptional and I have seen attys disbarred for less.

IMO, at a minimum she will get an actual suspension and probation threafter. Having been a probation monitor ~~ which is a voluntary position with the Bar ~~ I don't believe she can successfully complete probation. She is on an emotional rollercoaster and she feels that there is some conspiracy to silence her and her cause ~~ witness today's filing about federal judge Land and Eric Holder. She is NOT going to see a probation, IMO, as a chance to get right with the practice of law and the CalBar. IMO, she is gonna resent the hell out of it and will push any monitor to the point that any report about her is most likely not going to be good and will evidence she has not followed the terms of her probation. It is my feeling that the CalBar might even place a restriction on her when the suspension is over and there is probation and she can practice that she would have to have permission to file complaints ~~ and we can all see where that would go with her.

I can see her being disbarred and becoming her own client and filing this bullshit until the courts find her to be a vexatious litigant and anything she files is subject to court approval. I doubt if there is a federal court anywhere that would approve of her filing anything even similar to the shit she has been filing.

JMHO

[Hepburn]

10. Add a PS to the above.

The petition is filed ~~ there is no response due from the Bar. They have investigated her conduct and the Bar is looking to have the State Bar Court disbar her.

Sorry I forgot to add this to the above response.

[janx]

20. When was this filed, and when can we anticipate some kind

of outcome? It's fun to laugh at Orly, but if I were an attorney--especially one from the state of California, I'd be mad as hell.

[ladywnch]

25. thanks for the reply. Does the State Bar Court meet regularly?

Basically I'm wanting to know how long we'll have to wait for this decision and to see her head either explode or completely spin off her shoulders. Any idea?

[Stephanie]

13. That Holder filing was hilarious!

Summary: A guy was in a coffee shop and saw a guy walk into the Court building across the street who looked just like Holder! His companions agreed - the guy looked like Holder. Even though Holder was very publicly in California at the time, something's up!

[Hepburn]

14. Hey, it's a conspiracy....

...Obama went to one of those Look Alike agencies that rents out celebrity doubles, hired a Holder Look Alike and planted him in the coffee shop to fuck with Orly.

[Hippo_Tron]

21. Disbarred? She ought to be institutionalized...

[WeDidIt]

11. There were tons of teabagging birthers in the gallery

Of course he'll dismiss in a written decision. No way would he dismiss from the bench with a couple dozen frothing at the mouth birthers ready to jump out of the gallery.

[Hepburn]

15. I agree....

....I wonder when his ruling will be out.

[Catshrink]

16. That's it?

I was so looking forward to more Orly today. Any word from Judge Land? I've been working all day :(.

[Hepburn]

17. That's it....

...waiting for the written decision from Judge Carter.

[Catshrink]

18. Nothing from Land?

That's the one I want to hear from -- he's entertaining. I'd like to see what he does with the bat-shit crazy stuff.

[Hepburn]

22. The response to the sanctions was due today...

...instead of a response, Orly:

1. Filed a mx to recuse the judge for cause; and

2. Requested an extension to respond to the sanctions hearing.

Label her felony stupid, IMO.

[janx]

19. When do you think he'll submit it?

?

[Hepburn]

23. Carter ~~ on the mx to dismiss brought by the govt or...

...land on the mx to recuse for cause and request to extend time to respond?

IMO, I think Carter is gonna come down before Land ~~ not sure when, tho. I am saying this because the law clerks on the mx before Carter have a TON of pleadings as samples to use whereas the law clerks for Land ~~ the batshit crazy mx by Orly to recuse for cause if something new.

:hi: The above is really gut reaction ~~ and I have no clue when anything will come down, but I do think they are both gonna slam the shit out of her.

[Hokie]

24. There will be a first hand account of the hearing on Reality Check Radio tonight

A poster at the Politijab.com forum has attended all 3 of the motion hearings in Barnett v Obama. This is the case formerly known as Keyes v Obama. He will be a guest on Reality Check Radio on Blog Talk Radio at 9 PM EDT tonight. Reality Check Radio

[Catshrink]

27. Listening now..

Interesting so far. Judge asked what is the remedy/process if Obama is ineligible. Would go to Congress -- 25th Amendment (is the Pres. incapacitated -- this would be sort of it -- and impeachment).

[WeDidIt]

26. And right on track, World Nut Daily declares victory

Here's their headline:

Obama eligibility case survives 1st court test
Judge hears arguments, refuses immediate dismissal demand

Then they go on to say...

A federal judge in California today listened to government lawyers argue that a lawsuit over President Obama's eligibility should be immediately dismissed but refused to grant their request, saying he would make his decision and announce it later.

:eyes:

I ain't linkin' to World Nut Daily. If you want to read it, you know where to find it.

[Hepburn]

28. Quelle spin....

....:eyes:

But considering the source ~~ not a surprise.

[WeDidIt]

30. The best part of the birther victory declarations is

the fact that they fall into a horrible depression once the victory becomes agonizing defeat.

:evilgrin:

[Catshrink]

29. Orly says impeachment not appropriate because that's only for legitimate presidents

Orly and Kreep said quo warranto would apply. Judge asked "doesn't this belong in DC then?"

yadda yadda yadda...

The judge thinks they're venue shopping. Apparently he cut her off here and there but let her ramble at other times. She claimed that the Rhodes case gave her standing.

Judge is separating plaintiffs into groups -- retired military, active military, representatives who have sworn oaths, and political people. He's skeptical that any have standing here....

Judge said she's losing with regard to retired military, needs to make her case for active military.

[Catshrink]

31. Now onto the political people...

Judge wonders who was harmed (Keyes, et al) as this is required to establish standing.

Kreep was an hour late.... sat as far away from Orly as possible :rofl:

Judge is concerned about juridiction (revisiting). Powell vs. McCormick and a Gitmo case...

McCain? Had two US parents but born outside the US would have been unfair to deny him the chance to run -- would be an insult to mothers. If Obama had in fact been born in Kenya, would have been an insult to Obama's mother. What difference does it make if the parents were citizens?

Judge wanted to know "wasn't this for Congress to decide?" But Orly said she wanted him to decide. Judge is skeptical it will survive the 12b6? and the birthers won't be celebrating anymore.

Why do you want to depose Obama? He has no memory of his birth? Why all the Kenyan birth certificates? Orly says all controversial and Obama won't come out because he has a guilty mind and has spent over $1 million suppressing this stuff.

[Catshrink]

32. What's the "Spencer article"?

the radio guy is referencing that...

[Catshrink]

33. toon

[Catshrink]

34. Link!

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/tales-of-suicide-and-tyranny-f/

Carter's verdict? Eh, give him more time. No ruling today.

The courtroom discussion rambled across a range of topics, from John McCain's birth in Panama to Taitz's oppressed family in Siberia. But basically, there are two issues for Carter to decide.

The first is standing. Who has a right to ask the courts to determine Obama's eligibility to be president? In order to have standing, you've got to prove you've been harmed and could potentially obtain some kind of redress from the court. In this case, who has been damaged by the Usurper's alleged usurper-ness? The lawyers for the government say none of the four dozen plaintiffs meet the criteria. Taitz's cohort of retired military officers aren't likely going to be called into active duty. Her and Kreep's failed presidential candidates -- Alan Keyes and Wiley Drake among them -- didn't have a chance of hell in winning in the election, regardless of which Democrat was running for president. Taitz countered that all taxpayers have been standing to enforce the Constitution.

The second is justiciability. Hilariously, Judge Carter can't pronounce that word at all and apologized a few times for trying. The government's main argument is that courts have no business hearing a matter that might eventually remove a sitting president from office. The Constitution vests congress with the "sole" power to impeach, and the 25th amendment lays out the procedure by which a president is declared unfit for office. If one judge ruled a president ineligible, U.S. Attorney Roger West argued, the country would sit in a state of "disastrous" crisis while the decision worked its way through the appeals system. Kreep said that Congress has no power to impeach Obama, because Obama never was president in the first place.

[Catshrink]

35. Wavey Davey transcript

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/ (scroll down)