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rmp yellow (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-27-09 07:59 PM Original message |
Sirota: Obama "obstructing his own agenda by shielding incumbent senators from primary challengers" |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-27-09 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes, God forbid Obama try to help the Senators who are actively trying |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-27-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Penn. needs Admiral Joe for senate, not the former Republican the WH is endorsing. nt |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Like Arlen Spector? |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. On healthcare Arlen's been more of a team player than some of our so-called |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Only since he has a primary opponent.\nt |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. Exactly! |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. What's fight is Senator Bennet leading and how is he taking on the Republicans? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
40. He's supporting Michael Bennet who is wishy-washy on public option. |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-27-09 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
2. especially weak ones who have a good chance of losing the seat to repubs nt |
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rmp yellow (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-27-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Would their chances greatly increase if Obama supported them? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-27-09 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. Doesn't Sirota have a few Republicans |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
55. Shameless logical fallacy on your part. Sirota was talking about NY state politics in that post |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-27-09 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yes, Sirota....President Obama is just terrible! Trying to get votes to pass our agenda now..... |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-27-09 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. BS. Why would you want to spend money fighting primaries when the GOP |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Maybe it has something to do with choice and accountability. |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. What difference does it make |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. I have written the DNC and told them not to bother sending me anymore requests for |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
54. Go check out what you want with your party. |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Because not all of us want a senate full of democrats who oppose UHC, EFCA and cap/trade |
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boilerbabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #18 |
38. What's EFCA? |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Employee free choice act |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
52. What difference does it make if you ultimately don't have funds to |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. I don't take that stance |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. Hardly. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
9. Here's the important point ... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. "Obama's agenda is acutely threatened by congressional Democratic recalcitrance" This is bogus |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. It's silly to pretend there hasn't been "congressional Democratic recalcitrance" re healthcare... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Pretend? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. "Supporting opponents" is not the same thing as just letting Democracy work... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Twist things? How the hell does Obama's endorsement prevent democracy from working? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. LOL - I always know there's no argument when you resort to that... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 12:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I suppose you had an argument when you resorted to "you twist things to fit your 'Obama Fannie'"? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I spelled out the argument - you made up that "supporting opponents" bullshit... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. OP: "obstructing his own agenda by shielding incumbent senators from primary challengers" |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Who said that the prez "should support opponents" of sitting Senators?? nt |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Specter is a democrat due to primary pressure |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. As a Democrat, he's supporting Obama's agenda |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Specter supports Obama's agenda because he is being primaried from the left by Sestak |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. So? You seem to think Obama has something to do with the primary process. |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I think Obama has something to do with the primary process because he does |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Why would Obama not agree to campaign and fundraise for Specter? |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. Specter supports them because Sestak is doing a primary from the left |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. Well, yeah. The article is about Obama's impact on primaries. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. He would not without Sestak running against him. We all know that, whether we choose to ignore it or |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. No one is ignoring anything. Everyone knows Specter's record, but |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. By going to campaign for Specter, Obama insures that he stays in his seat. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Going to campaign for Specter? He made a statement about an election a year away. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. You are naive if you truly believe this. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. It's still about his agenda. Sestak is not in the Senate now. Period. n/t |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Thanks for explaining this |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. I suspose you also believe in the easter bunny!! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Not my fault that you can't put two and two together. |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-29-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. ah, changing the subject. LOL. |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. Obama may need to do that |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. delete |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
39. Spot on analysis |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-28-09 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
48. Who says those senators don't support Obama's agenda? |
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