Clark Campaigned for Democrats in 2002

[Clark4Prez]

For all those that bought the lie that Clark just became a Democrat, here is a little something to chew on.

DesMoines Register 12/19/2002


"Though he claimed to be politically "right down the middle," he campaigned for only Democrats this year, including U.S. House candidate Katrina Swett in New Hampshire, where he also attended a private dinner with party activists. He campaigned in Georgia for Sen. Max Cleland, a Democratic Vietnam Veteran who lost, and in California for Rep. Tom Lantos.

A search of the Federal Elections Commission Web site also shows Clark made a $1,000 contribution to U.S. Senate candidate Erskine Bowles, a North Carolina Democrat and former chief of staff to President Clinton.

In addition to criticizing Bush on Iraq, Clark has criticized the president's economic policy.

"When I got out of the army in 2000, we were on top of the world. Our economy and business methodology had created so much wealth," he said. "Some of the blush has gone off the bloom since then, particularly in the area of job creation."

http://www.dmregister.com/news/stories/c4789004/20029892.html

[Jack_Dawson]

1. But...But...he just BECAME a Democrat!!!

Great post, btw.

How long til the next disingenuous "Clark supporters: how do you reconcile" thread? Tick-tock. Tick-tock.

[Printer70]

19. But, But, But...he did a fundraiser for GOP in 2001 and...

...praised Bush up until 2003. He just keeps going back and forth, doesn't he? What a rock.

[funky_bug]

21. Um

Did ya read it? He campaigned for dems in 2002, criticized Bush in 2002... but there's no convincing you, so I'll take my facts, you take your opinions, and we can go on working toward the big house.

[Printer70]

43. You didn't read my post

As late as 2003, Clark was back to supporting Bush, saying "President Bush and Tony Blair should be proud of their resolve in the face of so much doubt." 04.10.03

Even in 2002, he said: "President George Bush had the courage and the vision... and we will always be grateful to President George Bush for that tremendous leadership and statesmanship." 01.07.02

[in_cog_ni_to]

2. I KNEW it!

HawkeyeX was posting his usual slander about Clark and he posted an article about Clark "planning his run" for president. He had met with Terry McAullife (sp?) back in October, November of 2002 to talk about a run. So much for THAT argument. :)

[FrenchieCat]

3. But, but, but,

but, but, but, but, but, but,..................

[Jerseycoa]

4. Gee, Clark4

Haven't they suffered enough today? :evilgrin:

[Lefta Dissenter]

5. Yeah, but that doesn't mean

that he wasn't thinking... Republican thoughts... :wow:

[funky_bug]

7. Don't you love a good conspiracy

Republican thoughts...scaaaaaaaaary

Seriously, thanks for the link up, Clark4Prez. It won't stop the "new democrat" bashing, but at least it gives us something to slap back with.

[JVS]

6. He's still a noob

[funky_bug]

8. Quite productive

Thank you.

Is "noob" like "poop"?

[JVS]

9. noob=newbie or rookie if you prefer

[Hippo_Tron]

10. LMAO...

With the expection of the Bush is a shitface flash movie that's probably the funniest thing I've seen all night.

[BootinUp]

11. I don't see that as a bad thing. n/t

[JVS]

12. Well plenty of loyal Democrats do

[Leilani]

13. I'm an Independent

So I guess I'm not loyal enough & you & Gov. Dean do not want my
vote; funny, I think there are a few other Dems out there who would be happy to get my vote.

[funky_bug]

15. Applause Applause

Good post!

Another reason I like the general. He appeals to the masses... the people who like to think for themselves.

[JVS]

Don't expect me to ever vote for Clark

If independents want him they can count on independents to vote for him. I'm voting for a real Democrat

[funky_bug]

17. You do that

ABB

[JVS]

18. ABB is a security blanket for unacceptable candidates

Like Clark

[funky_bug]

23. No

ABB is what real democrats believe. If you're not ABB, maybe YOU'RE not a real democrat.

[JVS]

24. No under ABB you lose definition of what being a Democrat is

you define yourself as the negation of something else, which is a poor way indeed of forming an identity.

[funky_bug]

25. And Bush

is a poor way indeed of defining my nation's leader. Let's get him out of the office, and then I'll worry about defining my own self.

[JVS]

27. I have my beliefs and I'll stick by them. If you are defining yourself...

later, as indicated by your statement "then I'll worry about defining my own self." then you can yield to me. I want better than Clark and I want better than ABB and it's just too bad. There are a number of candidates I'd gladly support, but the purpose of our party is much higher than just removing Bush.

[funky_bug]

29. Your Parties purpose

will be on hold for several years unless you commit to getting Bush out of the office. Personally, I'd rather live in a sack and get the Bush brothers out of the big houses. It's not about me... defining myself does not bring soldiers home, create jobs, replenish the economy or create an educational atmosphere that children can actually learn in. I'm not selfish enough to care about ME ME ME and MY CANDIDATE ad infinitum.

If that means I "yield to you", then so be it. You matter not. My county, that matters.

[JVS]

33. The voter is an individual, his/her vote reflects his/her values

Don't expect others to vote a certain way because that is what you want. Voters must be courted, not browbeaten into submission.

[funky_bug]

37. Exactly

So as I said before, you vote for yours, I'll vote for mine. Just don't cry to me if we have another Nader fiasco.

[JVS]

40. I don't want to hear you complain if we have another Nader fiasco either

[Clark4Prez]

26. Thinking like that is what got us Nader in 2000

Remember him, I think his quote on Gore and Bush was there "wasn't a dimes worth of difference". You are more than free to hold that attitude if you wish, but the rest of us want our country back.

[JVS]

28. Yawn

[funky_bug]

30. What a well thought out post

Thank you for adding your two-cents. Impossible to rebutt.

[JVS]

34. I learned it from Clark supporters

[funky_bug]

38. Oh yeah?

It's a nice change from the usual "poop", huh?

Sorry to go, but I have to make you go "iggy". I just can't stomach this "my way or four more years of Bush" stuff.

[JVS]

39. Great!

[BootinUp]

45. In case you don't see it below...

I guess you are against term limits?

[kayleybeth]

14. I'm a loyal Democrat

and I don't see it as a bad thing. In fact I am one of many, many loyal Democrats who left the Dean camp to support Clark.

[funky_bug]

16. Jumped camp too

I left the Edwards camp for the Clark camp. Jumping ship never felt so good... well, actually I felt a little guilty, 'cause I still like Edwards, but I have CONFIDENCE in Clark. That took care of the guilt... and my Christmas bonus...lol

[BootinUp]

44. Guess you're against term limits?

[SheilaT]

20. Whoop de do.

n/t

[Clark4Prez]

22. That was well thought out and certainly hard to rebutt. n/t

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

31. Maybe it was an even-year/odd-year thing.

:shrug:

[Tinoire]

32. Then why was he in Europe helping Powell

:shrug:

Wesley Clark at Davos, Switzerland

26 january 2003
Is The WEF Playing Host To "Secret Oil Meeting" To Carve Up The Iraqi Black Gold Cake?
Davos, Switzerland: As helicopters continue to bring Chief Executives and world leaders into the Swiss alpine resort of Davos for this year's meeting of the World Economic Forum (WEF), Friends of the Earth has been reliably informed by WEF participants that a "secret" meeting of top oil executives is scheduled to take place here this weekend <1>. Friends of the Earth International - the world's largest grassroots environmental network - has today challenged the WEF to either deny that such a meeting is taking place, or to come clean on which companies and governments are taking part and what is being discussed.
US Secretary of State Colin Powell is addressing the WEF today amidst evident concern amongst many WEF business leaders and protests across Switzerland. However, many WEF attendees in the oil industry are set to benefit from an Iraq war.
A recent Deutsche Bank report <2> indicated a potential conflict of interest amongst the permanent members of the United Nations Security Council over the commercial implications of war in Iraq. Baghdad Bazaar - Big Oil in Iraq was published last October but only came to light last week. It indicates that a regime change in Iraq would benefit US and UK oil companies while a peaceful resolution would benefit oil companies based in Russia, France and China:
<snip>
http://www.foei.org/media/2003/0126.html


Sunday, 26 January, 2003, 17:15 GMT
Powell fails to woo sceptics

Leading European figures say a speech by US Secretary of State Colin Powell warning that time is running out for Iraq to disarm has not persuaded them that a military strike is necessary.
<snip>
From the business community, Cem Kozlu, chairman of Turkish Airlines, said the message from Mr Powell was bleak.
"What Mr Powell said is that if there is evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq there will be war. And if there is no evidence, there will be war. That is bad news."
<snip>
Praise for Powell
But for the US, Wesley Clark, former Nato supreme allied commander for Europe, led the plaudits for Mr Powell's speech.
"He gave a very reasoned explanation of US policy," Mr Clark said. "It will help bring everyone together."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2696033.stm

[JVS]

36. opportunism

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

46. Fits the odd/even theory to a tee.

[Hoppin_Mad]

35. Let him serve a few years as a Dem US Rep or Dem City Councilman

and get his feet wet - prove his mettle as a Dem. See if he likes being a servent of the people. I'll be ready to support him as a Dem THEN.

[FrenchieCat]

41. Clark's running for president

whether you like it or not.

Howard Dean had nice words for Bush Jr. in December of 2000.....that would have been right after the frightful Florida "Debacle".....just watch NBC tape of Dean at doing the Canadian talk show....but that's ok, right?

So Clark saying about Powell:
"He gave a very reasoned explanation of US policy," Mr Clark said. "It will help bring everyone together."

That this is evil and terrible....

Even though Dean looooovvvves Powell, remember?

[BeyondGeography]

42. Putting his life on the line

in Vietnam and Kosovo, where he kept a 19-nation coalition together and helped save more than 1 million lives, represents "service" to me, even more than that city council gig you're talking about.