Senator doesn't expect health care vote this year

[IndianaGreen]

There is a whiff of collusion in the air!

Related thread posted by jefferson_dem:

McCaskill's moving goalposts - predicts nothing on health care reform until Christmas

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=8662386

Lugar tackles tough issues

Senator doesn't expect health care vote this year

Updated: Sunday, 20 Sep 2009, 11:03 PM EDT
Published : Sunday, 20 Sep 2009, 11:03 PM EDT

Leslie Olsen
Edited by Jackie Carpenter

FRANKLIN, Ind. (WISH) - Indiana Senator Richard Lugar isn't convinced a health care bill will be voted on this year. He made the comment following a Sunday night lecture at Franklin College.

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24-Hour News 8 later asked Senator Lugar whether he believes a bill will come to a vote this year.

"I'm not certain that there will. It could come off the tracks in this committee deliberation or it might simply not have ultimately sixty votes which would be necessary to stop the filibuster which will clearly occur," Sen. Lugar answered.

But Senator Lugar expects the controversial health care issue to overshadow all other issues the remainder of the senate session.

http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/politics/Lugar_tackles_tough_issues_20090920

[rwheeler31]

1. This is awful, her husband is in the nursing home racket.

[IndianaGreen]

5. And Evan Bayh's wife works for Wellpoint

We got the best Congress that money can buy.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

2. This needs to pass by November 1. Get moving!

[IndianaGreen]

4. October 15 is the drop dead date for Senate

according to another DUer.

[Clio the Leo]

8. Yep. See......

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/10/780139/-The-Hill:Obama-sets-ground-for-Budget-Reconciliation

I wish there were some way I could FORCE every DU'er to READ this passage. 'cause some of us still aren't getting it.

President Barack Obama this week has been laying the foundation for Senate Democrats to use a controversial budget maneuver to pass healthcare reform.

By offering Republicans olive branches during his address to Congress on Wednesday, Obama has set up a win-win situation. If GOP lawmakers embrace compromise, a healthcare bill would pass Congress easily. But the more likely scenario is that Republicans will continue to oppose Obama’s plan, and the president later this fall will be able to note he tried to strike a deal with the GOP but could not.

That will set up a Democratic argument that Senate leaders have been forced to use a partisan budget tool known as reconciliation to pass a health bill through the Senate by a simple majority, instead of 60 votes. Under the budget plan they passed earlier this year, Democrats could invoke the reconciliation process on Oct. 15.

[demodonkey]

3. Filibuster, MY FOOT. If they wanna filibuster make 'em REALLY filibuster.

Enough of these 'virtual' filibusters shutting down votes. If the GOP wants to shut it down let them do it the hard way. Let the GOP Senators stand there with the whole f-ing world watching on C-SPAN as they read the phone book while 45,000 Americans die yearly due to no healthcare.

Let these video clips be ready for use in 2010 when voters have to decide if their elected officials are getting enough done to warrant reelection.

Make them REALLY filibuster. Live.

[MannyGoldstein]

6. I Suspect Early January

We on the Left will forget about the Public Option by then, and nobody will be thinking of politics after New Year's.

[Clio the Leo]

7. What in the world has happened to Claire?

She was one of the President's campaign co-chairs for crying out loud.

Anyway, reconciliation is scheduled for 10/15 .... if they dont want to vote they can stay home that day.

[IndianaGreen]

9. I used to like her. Wasn't her name mentioned as possible VP?

I can only surmise that there is money involved.

[Clio the Leo]

10. Maybe WAY down the list......

.... but Sebelius was the only seriously considered female VP pick (because Hillary said she wasn't going to be vetted if she wasn't the def. pick.)

I thought she might be picked for a cabinet spot. But since Inauguration, she has dropped off of the Obama radar .... virtually no visits to the WH, nada.

Did she not do the job delivering MO? Who knows.

lol, I have an urge to Tweet her and find out.

[IndianaGreen]

11. Is that a pumpkin pie in your avatar?

Mmmmmm.... pumpkin pie!

:9

[Clio the Leo]

13. Well it aint a bowl of jelly beans!

Truth be told, I dont even LIKE pumpkin pie ..... I like lemon meringue or chess ... and I'd always rather have CAKE than pie.

But I support Barack Obama, through thick and thin .......... and even through yucky pie. :patriot:

[IndianaGreen]

14. I love pumpkin pie, and pumpkin bread

I am just a Midwesterner!

Best wishes!

[MarjorieG]

16. reconciliation by 10/15, or not at all? really hate the Baucus slowdown now.

[Bluenorthwest]

22. She is wealthy from her husband's 'Nursing Home' fortune

And that is that.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

12. She was one of Obama's loudest cheerleaders, but boy, has she turned out to be MAJOR

disappointment!!

[jeanpalmer]

15. nothing on health care reform until Christmas

which Christmas? 2020?

I really doubt that anything will be done at all. The things they're discussing now depend on a mandate, and I don't believe a mandate that will cost thousands of dollars will pass the Senate. That's just too radical for the Senate.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

18. I don't think that mandates are too radical for the Senate

Things like a public option and single-payer, now THAT'S "radical"! :eyes:

[Proud Liberal Dem]

17. It sounds as though both of them are speculating

I suspect that we will be seeing a vote MUCH sooner. Neither of them are in the leadership either. This is such a high priority for President Obama and the Democrats that I don't think that it is going to simply wait until December.

[Vinca]

19. There's no hurry. After all,

it's only 123+ Americans dying every day for lack of health care (according to the recent 45,000 a year number). Why should that bother people in Washington who take time out of their day to honor sports teams and name post offices? :mad:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

20. We need the Mass. senat e seat to be filled first ...before a vote anyway

[robo50]

21. There will be an interim Senator from Mass by October 1. I predict n/t