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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:23 PM
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"But, fair or not, what I heard was an unspoken word in the air: You lie, boy!" (Maureen Dowd)
Boy, Oh, Boy
By MAUREEN DOWD
WASHINGTON

The normally nonchalant Barack Obama looked nonplussed, as Nancy Pelosi glowered behind.

Surrounded by middle-aged white guys — a sepia snapshot of the days when such pols ran Washington like their own men’s club — Joe Wilson yelled “You lie!” at a president who didn’t.

But, fair or not, what I heard was an unspoken word in the air: You lie, boy!

The outburst was unexpected from a milquetoast Republican backbencher from South Carolina who had attracted little media attention. Now it has made him an overnight right-wing hero, inspiring “You lie!” bumper stickers and T-shirts.

The congressman, we learned, belonged to the Sons of Confederate Veterans, led a 2000 campaign to keep the Confederate flag waving above South Carolina’s state Capitol and denounced as a “smear” the true claim of a black woman that she was the daughter of Strom Thurmond, the ’48 segregationist candidate for president. Wilson clearly did not like being lectured and even rebuked by the brainy black president presiding over the majestic chamber.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/opinion/13dowd.html?_r=2&ref=opinion&pagewanted=print

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:27 PM
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1. I'm not much of a Dowd fan, but she's right on the money with this.
Good on you Mo. :thumbsup:
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iconocrastic Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:16 PM
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30. ""Fair or not but what I heard" - she admits it's subjective on her part
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iconocrastic Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:34 PM
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32. Maher apparently has a similar problem
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:29 PM
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2. And right behind that is
"Boy - you are just another lazy shifty ass n***er"
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-12-09 11:39 PM
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3. Don't care for Dowd much, but give credit when it is due. She is right on with this.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:04 AM
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4. I certainly give her credit for telling the truth. n/t
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:09 AM
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5. Bingo
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:12 AM
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6. Clicking on that link took me to a site that was probably trying to download a trojan onto my comp.
Anybody else get that?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:32 AM
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8. earlier when going to krugman's blog
I got an avg webshield alert. Are you using avg as well?
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:39 AM
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11. No. I got some site telling me "your computer might be infected!!!11!"
Which always prompts me to say "no shit, since you're trying to infect it right now".
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 06:44 AM
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14. I get that every time I try to go to the NYTimes' site. nt
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:17 PM
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20. I've been getting that on the NYT site as well. I have to ditch Safari to get out of it.
Obnoxious as hell, and kinda stupid--it keeps telling me about Windows infections & I'm using a Macbook.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:59 PM
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24. I have Norton 360....it actually pre-scans sites ..."Norton safe sites"
Edited on Sun Sep-13-09 01:00 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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irislake Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 07:32 PM
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34. I'm getting it
and I have Norton 360.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:36 AM
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10. must be the only one
sorry.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:40 AM
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12. There are a lot of sites like that at the moment
Luckily it seems they can't install anything automatically -- they download their malware and try to convince you that you need to install it because you have viruses. So you're safe as long as you just delete it.

There's some information here in a Wired article about it targeting Da Vinci Code fans -- but it's a lot more widespread than that:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/09/dan-brown/

On Tuesday, NBC’s Today show kicked off a week-long promotion for Brown’s Da Vinci sequel by airing the first of a series of clues to the thriller’s plot, in the form of a tour of a real-life biological research facility nicknamed the “Death Star” because it houses dead animal specimens. Host Matt Lauer challenged viewers to identify the research site and its location, and thereby acquire vital information about the novel. “Suffice it to say, that this facility is a big part of the book,” said Lauer. “So, if I’m in a place called the Death Star, where am I?”

But on Wednesday morning the top Google search result for “death star research” — the logical query — would bring you no closer to unraveling the Lost Symbol mystery. Instead, it produced a malicious website that uses pop-ups, mouse-trapping and a well-executed fake virus scan to trick you into installing a Windows executable that will screw up your computer pretty badly.

The software is a scareware product called Smart Virus Eliminator that pesters you with false virus reports and urges you to pay anywhere from $59 to $79 for a “registered” version of the program. The code does other bad things as well, and is a well-known scam linked to an Eastern European cybercrime group. What’s impressing experts is the rapidity with which those black hats are able to use search engine optimization techniques to plant their flag atop a trending search like “death star research.”



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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:55 PM
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23. from NYT:


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Published: September 13, 2009

Some NYTimes.com readers have seen a pop-up box warning them about a virus and directing them to a site that claims to offer antivirus software. We believe this was generated by an unauthorized advertisement and are working to prevent the problem from recurring. If you see such a warning, we suggest that you not click on it. Instead, quit and restart your Web browser. Questions and comments can be sent to adtraffic@nytimes.com.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 07:25 AM
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37. Thanks! nt
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Undercurrent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:24 AM
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7. Maureen nailed it.
Good for her!
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:36 AM
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9. This sums up what I know is going on
and just as Jim Clyburn said, you do not allow this to fester, it will become a
pest after a long run.


Senator Jim DeMint exhorted conservatives to “break” the president by upending his health care plan. Rusty DePass, a G.O.P. activist, said that a gorilla that escaped from a zoo was “just one of Michelle’s ancestors.” Lovelorn Mark Sanford tried to refuse the president’s stimulus money. And now Joe Wilson.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:05 AM
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13. K&R
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 08:18 AM
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15. So this is all it took to convince Dowd?
But Wilson’s shocking disrespect for the office of the president — no Democrat ever shouted “liar” at W. when he was hawking a fake case for war in Iraq — convinced me: Some people just can’t believe a black man is president and will never accept it.


All the racists crap, from people hanging effigies of Obama to toting guns at town halls, and "you lie" was what it took for Dowd to realize that there are some racist asshole in this country?

Typical.

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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 08:20 AM
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16. Even a broken clock's right twice a day.
She's spot on here.

Julie
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:26 PM
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31. I don't like her cattiness
but she is right about this.

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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 08:48 AM
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17. bingo.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 09:47 AM
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18. When even Maureen Dowd can figure it out, that should tell us something.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:38 PM
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21. Many 'figured it out' but don't want to admit it or want us to
'ignore' it. The later is 'really cute.'
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:15 PM
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19. most telling part for me was....
“In South Carolina politics, I learned that the olive branch works very seldom,” he said. “You have to come at these things from a position of strength."

"My father used to say, ‘Son, always remember that silence gives consent.’ "
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 12:40 PM
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22. EXACTLY!! n/t
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FreeCajun Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 01:10 PM
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25. Much like a black hole, ...
... even though you can't observe it directly, all you have to do is observe the effects on the words around it and it's existence becomes very clear.
I "not-heard" a much worse unspoken word than "boy."
Growing up around a lot of racists, you learn to tell.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:06 PM
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26. Kudos to MoDo for calling it what it is
When Wilson shouted, my husband looked at me and said "That never would have happened if the president was white". And I was hoping we had come so far. Guess not.

One thing, though, this has put the whole issue of racism front and center. After Wilson's outburst, it will be harder for Republicans to disavow and try to sweep it under the rug.
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:18 PM
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27. Nailed it! n/t
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 02:50 PM
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28. She's right about this.
When Chris Wallace mentioned Dowd's comments to Wilson, he left out the parts about his background, making it sound as if Dowd is just saying racist to smear Wilson.
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kelliebrat Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:13 PM
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29. K & R
:kick:
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nicky187 Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 04:37 PM
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33. It kind of hurts to use this quote...
... but I have to say, "Ditto."

I bet it doesn't sound as good as when Rush's followers say
it, though.
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angrychair Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 10:37 PM
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35. This is all funny to me
It takes some asshat yelling like a drunk at a healthcare townhall to make people in the m$m pay attention and realize this these wackjobs are racists to their core? This is supposed to be news??? This is more stupid crap from the supposed leftist m$m. Not worth the effort it takes to read it on the screen. All you have to do is watch the video feed from s single healthcare debate protest or watch the DC teabag fest 2009 video feeds and it is obvious after about 5 minutes even to a small child that these people are worthless racists wackjobs. I hate giving these worthless m$m idiots any credit at all for pointing out the obvious. Come back when they are reporting are something we don't know already.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:24 PM
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36. South Carolina has become a punch line
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 03:13 PM
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38. Now that you mention it, sure looks like it. Critical thinking skills
are missing.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 04:45 PM
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40. Strom Thurmond is proof that it has been in short supply for a long time.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 03:42 PM
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39. Hard not to think WIlson was driven by racism.
He's the first guy evere to heckle a president during a joint session speech--and it happens to be our first black president. At the same time he's a white conservative from the Deep South, who boasts confederate ties and loyalties. And what he accused the president of when he shouted echoed a stereotype of blacks particularly common among white racists, Southern racists especially: "Niggers lie."
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