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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:02 AM Original message |
Now that the Public Option is not dead, the outrage of the day is that it'll take 4 years |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. Government time is like geology. lol I wouldn't expect anything sooner, really. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
2. If you read between the lines, The Public Option is not only dead ... |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 01:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
24. "Reading between the lines" also gets you to death panels. |
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Control-Z (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 02:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
25. I would bet money that |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 08:16 AM Response to Reply #25 |
41. Hope springs eternal. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 08:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
43. you have chosen that you will be pissed off and bitter no matter what happens. it's funny actually. |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
3. I'm still crossing my fingers that the 4 years thing is not set in stone and is a very |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. it is not set in stone, no bill has been signed |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
4. Don't give up HOPE. Maybe the public option IS dead, after all! nt |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
49. I get the feeling some here wish that is so, just so they could do a "i told you so" routine and |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
7. I just want to read the legislation after it is signed! |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:29 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. The public option isn't a lock, and it never was. The fact that everyone won't have the option to |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Do we know for sure that this bill won't have the public option??? |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 01:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. That definitely needs to be clarified |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Well said |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
8. Professional |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. There professionals all right. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 09:00 AM Response to Reply #11 |
46. your favorite team loses? obama's fault |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:46 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. So, if we just don't pass healthcare reform at all because it's not single-payer, it will be at |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 06:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
35. Did you miss the part about giving government insurance to people who need catastrophic |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 09:51 AM Response to Reply #35 |
55. High deductible so called "catastrophic" insurance |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
44. ah so, blood is on obama's hands... yes, the people cha are talking about fill their pampers daily. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
56. So yeah, blame President Obama |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
13. Rec'd. NOTHING is ever good enough. NOTHING is ever right. NOTHING is ever enough. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:53 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Better to have "nothing" than GIFT 900 Billion to the already bloated Insurance Industry. |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 05:56 AM Response to Reply #15 |
34. It is not a gift |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. That sounds like an abusive parent... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 06:27 AM Response to Reply #17 |
36. Yes. It is not going to be easy. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 04:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Nothing is ever good enough for whom? |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
16. Who said the Public Option is dead? |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 01:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Nobody. They are "reading between the lines" aka pulling shit out of their asses |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 01:10 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. And I worry about the misinformation from the M$M.. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 06:30 AM Response to Reply #21 |
37. It is getting a bit suspicious |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 03:08 AM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Depends on your definition of "dead" |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 03:24 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. We will have to wait and see the actual bill... |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 04:11 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I don't see how a true public option, open to all, can coexist with a corporatist mandate |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 04:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Ok, this is what I see coming... |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 08:52 AM Response to Reply #16 |
45. the people who will never be satisfied are saying it on this thread right now. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
19. "Many of those who are now whining...were praising Bill Moyers..." |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 03:34 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. How about chilling |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 01:11 AM Response to Original message |
23. (shrug) DU started as a protest site. That's about all many here know how to do... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 03:17 AM Response to Original message |
27. Errr from what I heard- and from what's in the bill(s) that Obama seemed to endorse |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 04:20 AM Response to Original message |
32. Um, no. The outrage is that is seems private insurance is the center |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
38. The public option was like a rotten bone tossed out to appease |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
39. Exhibit A of why appeasing moderates makes more sense than appeasing liberals. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. hey man, not fair. not all liberals are constantly pissy like that. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Of course not. I myself am not. |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
40. Why SHOULD it take 4 years when Medicare was set up in one? |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 08:19 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. $$$$ is why |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #40 |
50. Smaller impact on the budget. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. And I suppose that's why it's figured to cost 900B over the next 10 years... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
51. You're still pretending that the prez said anyone could buy into the public option... |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 09:46 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. How big do you think that fraction is gonna grow? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. If they "handcuff it" - as Sen. McCaskill said they will (on Morning Joe)... |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 07:17 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I love all these metaphors... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
54. It's apparently dead as an option for anyone except the chronically unisurable |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-10-09 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
58. Tell that to the families of the 80,000 Americans who will DIE in those |
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