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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:09 AM Original message |
Obama is not playing to win. he is playing not to lose. That's not leadership. |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
1. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
2. Wellington at Waterloo was exceedingly cautious and won just fine. |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. The American Revolution as well |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
3. Let's wait for his speech on Wednesday |
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MarjorieG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
4. We have to get it out of through the Senate and into Conference. |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
5. Oh. It's YOU. |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
6. More armchair "Presidenting" from people who couldn't handle this mess a fraction as well as he is |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. i like it how some DUers think they know better than he does... |
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bigjohn16 (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
7. What should be his next step in your opinion? |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. "Everybody loves Medicare. We Democrats would like to give everybody a chance to love it." |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. +1 n/t |
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quantass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
8. I'm grumpy with Obama too but Seriously we should wait for the Speech BEFORE letting the Venom Fly |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
9. I think he is playing to sign a bill--Any bill will do and claim victory. |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. He wants to sign a bill |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. I'd be happy if he could just get a bill through that creates an opening... |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Anything that makes life a little easier for everybody would be a "good bill" IMHO |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
10. He's supporting a newer, better ... Corporate USA. eom |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
11. The dessert of epic fail |
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hileeopnyn8d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
12. What did narcissists do before the internet? nt |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
14. He is not even playing "not to lose." He is playing to cover the point spread - accepting a |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
15. oh bullshit!!... |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
29. +1 |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
16. Obama, from his campaign - I don't throw the first punch, but I always throw the last. nt |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
19. Not according to Sun Tzu - |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
20. Whatever! |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
21. Stand together to rise together... |
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branders seine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
24. Is it him? |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
25. Help me out: Can Pres. Obama get the public option or single payer |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
26. Is this all about him not losing? I think the Dems in Congress don't care if Obama goes down. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
28. Fuck your little |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. That seems unnecessarily harsh |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
30. hookay... everyone and their brother thinks they know better than this President. |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
33. I assume since you are an expert on "winning" |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. You misread the OP |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
35. Pres. Obama is playing to gain us some health care reform, |
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