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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 06:48 PM Original message |
CBO Chief Writes Preventative Care Will Increase Costs Due To Longer Longevity |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well, we CAN"T have that, can we? |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. If the sons-of-bitches don't die off quickly enough, then some euphemistic term for state-sponsored |
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DrToast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. He's not saying that. He's just saying it's not cost neutral |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Granted. But would you agree it sounds just a little tone deaf? |
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DrToast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 09:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Of course. But he's not supposed to say whether or not it's good policy |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. I remember when a similar argument was made about anti-smoking ads. |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Yeah, but nobody seems to care when we spend trillions on wars and tax cuts. |
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malletgirl02 (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. Exactly |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. That's one of the many flaws in the decision making process behind the policies you list. |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. My WTF meter is off the chart |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
4. Link? Thanks. nt |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Here is the link: |
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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
8. You mean people might actually live longer? |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-06-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
30. Yes. Tragic isn't it? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 04:44 AM Response to Original message |
11. 100% true. Prevention saves live, but costs money. Duh. n/t |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
23. All the extra testing costs more than the savings from early detection and treatment. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 04:53 AM Response to Original message |
12. So... subsidize smoking? |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Raise the income cap on Social Security. |
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theothersnippywshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
13. Did CBO address the offsets from Palin's Death Panels killing republicans? n/t |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
14. I guess we'll have to make ourselves sick so we can die |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
15. Won't providing more preventative care also DECREASE costs? |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
16. IS THIS THE CBO's ANALYSIS OF SINGLE PAYER, OR IS THIS A SNIPPET OF SOME OTHER ANALYSIS? |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. See post number 9 for the link to the letter the director sent nt |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
18. Isn't that kinda the point of health care? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. The point is expanding health care coverage simply increases expenses, not decreases them. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 12:11 PM Original message |
That's why Insurance Reform has not made sense from the beginning. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
26. I've been reading about some of the crazy bills submitted to the insurance |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
19. The shocker isn't the extra spending due to longevity, its that preventive care doesn't cut costs. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
20. Time for a mass suicide |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
21. Do you have a link please. |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. See post number 9 for link to the Director's letter |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-05-09 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
24. In the early 19th c., business stated paying public health nurses |
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