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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:51 PM
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Obama's problem in a nutshell
Helen Thomas:

I remember when Johnson was very unhappy with his friend Sen. Frank Church, D-Idaho, who was chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, and veering away from support for the Vietnam War.

At a White House reception, Johnson beckoned Church over for a chat and said: "Now Frank, just where do you get your ideas about Vietnam?"

"From Walter Lippmann, the great political columnist," Church replied.

"Well," said Johnson, "the next time you need a dam in Idaho, you just ask Walter Lippmann."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=46281#ixzz0QAXstPOQ


Machiavelli:

This gives rise to an argument: whether it is better to be loved than feared, or the opposite. The answer is that one would like to be both, but since it is difficult to combine the two it is much safer to be feared than loved, if one of the two has to make way. For generally speaking, one can say the following about men: they are ungrateful, inconsistent, feigners and dissimulators, avoiders of danger, eager for gain, and whilst it profits them they are all yours.

They will offer you their blood, their property, their life and their offspring when your need for them is remote. But when your needs are pressing, they turn away. The prince who depends entirely on their words perishes when he finds he has not taken any other precautions. This is because friendships purchased with money and not by greatness and nobility of spirit are paid for, but not collected, and when you need them they cannot be used.

Men are less worried about harming somebody who makes himself loved than someone who makes himself feared, for love is held by a chain of obligation which, since men are bad, is broken at every opportunity for personal gain. Fear, on the other hand, is maintained by a dread of punishment which will never desert you.


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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 02:54 PM
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1. It took Kennedy\Johnson a while to get the votes for the CRA, K&R for the Johnson line
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-04-09 03:23 PM
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2. Interesting story
Would the Vietnam War have ended sooner if Senator Church had simply given a dam?
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