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European Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 07:58 PM Original message |
Obama headed for Bush-like poll numbers. |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. Did he really run a brilliant campaign? Or was he up against a weak, elderly man representing... |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. You may not remember this, but... |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. I never thought Hillary was a strong candidate either. She had an upper 40s |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
44. You do realize the polls had him down 50-20 against her nationally right? |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 09:11 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. That only shows how weak a campaign she ran and candidate she was. It's nothing personal... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. Yeah, you would think he campaigned poorly..but |
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krawhitham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. He also beat all the other Dems |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. don't let facts hit you in the head |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Basically a 2 point drop per week. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. off inflated 'honeymoon' figures. |
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BlueCaliDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm sorry, but unlike you, I have zero faith in corporate-run polls. eom |
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Becky72 (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. Misleading |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Bill Clinton maintained 60% for a long time. I don't buy the idea that falling to the upper 40s was |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Sorry, but you are completely wrong here. He was at 55% in February and 45% in May |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. and he hadn't even started on health care yet. |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. You must have misread my post and thought I commented on Bill Clinton's first year |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Ok. So you are comparing Obama's FIRST year to Clinton's SECOND year? |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Again, I did not say what you think I said. I have no desire to continue debating with someone who |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Your post is there for everyone to see. Let the people judge! |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I don't care if there are others here like you who do not comprehend subtle distinctions and would |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Even your first fact is wrong. Obama was at 55 today. |
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Becky72 (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Bill fell to 40% before Obama did |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Completely and totally wrong - you don't know the facts and just say things untrue. |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Show me where I said I was refering to his first term. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Because, you know, comparing a first term president to a second term president makes tons of sense. |
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Becky72 (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Exactly. Apples vs. Oranges n/t |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Having been proven objectively wrong you now turn to being aggresively obtuse |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. That's just asinine |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I was merely disputing the claim that a drop from 60 is inevitable. Disputing that claim merely |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Please |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #32 |
50. I'm beginning to get the impression that continuing this will not lead to a productive discussion! |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #50 |
62. You said something stupid, got called on it, then tried to backtrack |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. I didn't backtrack. I just wasn't as specific as I should have been regarding time period in the |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. LOL |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. My sole goal in life is to win your approval. I feel miserable when you claim I'm pitiful. Thus, I |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Ay yay yay |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. "for a long time". Really? |
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LostinRed (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 02:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
48. Clinton was also had the advantage of |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 04:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
49. LOL |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
6. i can understand why progressives are upset ... |
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BlueMTexpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
13. I haven't seen a meltdown ... only people claiming that there is one. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
57. And they make sure to claim that here. OFTEN. |
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RememberWellstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
29. Polls suck!! |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
30. Polls schmolls. nt |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
31. He fell 13 points in about 32 weeks after accomplishing more than most presidents. Not bad. n/t |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
34. According to Gallup, Obama is up 5 points in the past 4 days.... OP FAIL |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. LOL...but I thought it said 30%! |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. And that's only because Bush didn't DO much to this date of his (p)residency that his |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Old Dumbya spent more time on vacation then doing any work and then messed up with Sept. 11th |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Yup. And I think by this date in 2001, he had already been on vacation for about 37 days. n/t |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
38. You mean the 90% poll numbers Bush had post 9-11? |
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Amos Moses (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
41. This administration doesn't seem to have any idea |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 02:23 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. doesn't have a clue i agree with you |
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orwell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
42. More Johnny One Notes...n/t |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
43. How? |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 02:21 AM Response to Original message |
45. FAIL |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
47. How could anyone with a straight face say such a stupid thing? |
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Bonn1997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
52. I'm really not too concerned about his poll numbers. Right now... |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
53. Snowe will stab him in the back like Grassley and Enzi did. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 09:18 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I don't think she would stab him in the back, not like her at all. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 09:19 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. She'll definitely stab him in the back |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 09:26 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Maine has a very moderate electorate....she may not lose a primary or would pull a Lieberman. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. She can't pull a Lieberman in Maine |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
56. O horseshit. |
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Tippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
60. O yea ,of little faith...... |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
61. Oh for the love of GOD... just jump off the pier already and get it over with |
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kid a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
64. blah blah blah blah blah blah...your breath stinks |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-04-09 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
68. You can't expect approval ratings to stay high when you tackle an issue like healthcare |
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