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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:23 PM Original message |
Duck! Here comes the gauntlet! (Obama to Deliver Major Health Care Speech) |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. And yet the naysayers will immediately pronounce it a failure |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Does everyone have to be a naysayer or a syncophant? |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. it is indeed so fucking juvenile |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 07:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
33. Of course. There is no middle ground. |
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iconocrastic (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Does the gauntlet include dropping the public option? |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 12:05 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. That's My Question Too |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #17 |
42. Wouldnt that make Congress the GOOD cops? |
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jumptheshadow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 05:35 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. No, it doesn't, it's in the story (nt) |
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Clear Blue Sky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 07:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
32. This speech is months too late. |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #32 |
48. No, it isn't. Better to wait until after the GOP has exhausted |
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damonm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Exactly. |
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Clear Blue Sky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #48 |
62. You may be right, but on the other hand |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
2. Oh, Shit! |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. lol the ONLY thing surprising about this to me...... |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Yuppers, I knew he was waiting for all the kids to stomp their feet and get |
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HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
7. AWWWW SUKI SUKI NOW |
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Cash_thatswhatiwant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
41. lol |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
8. words mean nothing ONLY behavior is real - observable, measureable, verifiable nt |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. words inspire behavior. n/t |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
50. What other "behavior" can he exhibit? |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
9. no.. WE are the ones we have been waiting for |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. you mean we cant just sit on our butts and whine and moan..... |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. lol - personally, I wouldn't mind sitting on my butt |
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jumptheshadow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 05:38 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. The majority of Americans want the public option |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #23 |
51. He isn't caving. That is ridiculous. what have you done today |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
13. If he's all waffley on the public option again |
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OhioBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. He isn't waffley. He is consistent. |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #15 |
46. He is consistenly waffley when it comes to health CARE!! |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
52. I haven't heard him say he'll VETO a bill that LACKS the PO. |
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damonm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Interesting - |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Well good, then! |
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damonm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Seems I misremembered slightly - |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. hmm.. that's good phrasing, I'll take it. I guess he understates it because |
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NJGeek (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
16. He needs to be firm, strong, resolute |
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progressivemar (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 12:53 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. No! Obama might cut out the public option, |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Er, welcome to DU? BTW, Politico is known for their dramatic misinterpretations.. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 06:30 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I think the pizza answered that question. n/t |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
63. There's been a lot of deadwood showing |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
36. Mr. President needs to spell it out in A B C 123 language |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 04:35 AM Response to Original message |
20. I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment here. |
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jumptheshadow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 05:33 AM Response to Original message |
21. Fail! |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 06:30 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Oh yeah, he'll be a real man if he "stares down the party." Sure hope this is wrong. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 06:31 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Deleted message |
jumptheshadow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 06:48 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Excuse me, don't you DARE compare me to a troll (nt) |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #27 |
49. I pointed out that the same link was used by the tombstoned troll above. |
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jumptheshadow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 04:22 AM Response to Reply #49 |
68. Guess what? |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 04:52 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Fail link is fail porn all the same. n/t |
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jumptheshadow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 06:52 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Then how about this link? |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 07:28 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. politico sad clown failure porn. |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 07:44 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Same link. |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 08:34 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. lol, some of you would make TERRIBLE salespeople.... |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Bush did a great job ramming an agenda and was 'elected' to two terms |
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Clio the Leo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. "Even though congressional elections in 2006 were bad for the GOP"... |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. So far I'd say the Republicans are doing OK with their agenda |
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jumptheshadow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:35 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Yep, it's salesmanship all right |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
55. Oh noooooes!!! |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
31. We'll see... |
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Cash_thatswhatiwant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
39. I hate to say it but this but he should have done this a loooooooong time ago |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:51 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. No, Now Is The TIme |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. When everyone was at the beach? |
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Cash_thatswhatiwant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. wat |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Yes, it is too late IMHO. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Wrong. |
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HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Exactly |
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damonm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. As he said in the campaign... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
65. Not, it's not too late..too |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
64. This is the perfect time. |
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Better BeLIEve Bull (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
61. slap em in the face, O! |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-02-09 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
66. He better hammer the shit home too!! |
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Craftsman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-03-09 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
70. Clinton tried the same thing in 1993 |
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