Poll: By Double Digits, More Blame GOP Leaders Than Obama For Failure To Work Together

[babylonsister]

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/bipartisanship/poll-by-double-digits-more-blame-gop-leaders-than-obama-for-failure-to-work-together/

Poll: By Double Digits, More Blame GOP Leaders Than Obama For Failure To Work Together


Good timing: On the same day that an argument has erupted over who’s to blame for the fact that bipartisanship has begun its end of life consultations, a new poll has come along to shed light on who the public holds responsible.

The new Pew poll finds that more blame GOP leaders than Obama by double digits. But there’s a pretty big caveat: The amount who blame Obama is clearly on the rise. Take a look at this chart:



Twenty-nine percent blame GOP leaders for the failure to work together; only 17% blame Obama, a double-digit spread of 12 points. However, the percentage who blame Obama is up from 12% in June and seven percent in February.

Presuming that a protracted spin war over who’s to blame for the breakdown in bipartisanship is about to kick into high gear, a lot will turn on how this is covered. Will the coverage be “Dems blame Republicans, while Republicans blame Dems,” or will the leading nonpartisan opinionmakers and analyst types actually make a call on who they think is really to blame here?

[Drunken Irishman]

1. This is the game and I'm surprised DUers haven't realized it.

Obama will constantly try to include the Republicans knowing full well they probably don't want to work with him. Once they don't, he can go ahead with his plan and say, "well, we tried...".

[polichick]

2. Too bad it didn't work that way with the stimulus...

They compromised the bill into something that didn't even resemble what they wanted ~ for no votes.

If they'd done what you suggest then, it would be more likely now.

[Parker CA]

6. The key to that strategy, and the factor that will keep DU in perpetual bi-polar state until then,

is that Obama will play this game until the very end. He will give the pukes as much rope as they will take, knowing they will not ever go along with him, and when they finally get to d-day and sides are taken, Obama will wipe the floor with these bastids.

[polichick]

7. Why didn't he do that with the stimulus?? nt

[Drunken Irishman]

8. He did and the stimulus worked.

[polichick]

9. Please see #2

[Drunken Irishman]

10. I saw it. You're wrong. He made concessions, but got most of what he wanted.

[polichick]

13. They made a lot of concessions re infrastructure and energy for nothing...

I hope you're right but they'd have to do it differently than before.

[boppers]

14. Uhm, are you saying the stimulus package failed?

Or that it had crap that didn't help?

Or just claiming that Obama's a chicken chicken chicken and he should fight fight fight?

[polichick]

16. I'm saying they made compromises which weakened the bill...

...in order to placate the right ~ for nothing, since they didn't vote for it.

Don't want to see that same thing happen now ~ or with the energy bill.

[Parker CA]

12. What aspect of the stimulus included such a specific component as the public option? nt.

[polichick]

15. My point is the Dems had a better plan to begin with - and compromised for nothing. nt

[Parker CA]

19. And my point is that the stimulus did not have such a vital component, had less gop opposition, and

was not such a make-it-or-break-it piece of legislation as the health care will be.

I am one who believes Obama will receive a solid health care bill with a strong public option that he will sign before late Fall. I understand you feel otherwise. To each their own.

[polichick]

20. The stimulus had less GOP opposition? Not one Republican voted for it...

There's no point in reaching out to these idiots ~ the bill gets weaker and weaker that way.

We could have had an extremely strong stimulus bill and we can still have an extremely strong healthcare bill ~ if Dems do it themselves.

[Parker CA]

21. 3 pukes voted for it in the Senate. Unfortunately politics is more complicated that just pushing

through legislation without attempting compromise.

[polichick]

22. True, we got three in the Senate - but those aren't the ones we compromised for...

...and thankfully we can probably count on those three this time too. I really hope they're only talking bipartisanship and planning to pass a strong Dem bill.

[Parker CA]

23. It's all speculation until we see what finally unfolds, but I believe there will be a health care

bill with a strong public option. Optimism is my friend. ;)

[CakeGrrl]

11. That's been clear from the go. You'd think anyone who understands how the MSM spins

would get that they are NOT going to help a Democrat. They're always going to give a leg up to the Republicans to give them an edge wherever possible.

When Republicans want to cry "foul", they will get all the airtime they need to reinforce their message.

And anyone who doesn't think Obama and his administration realize this, well...

[SpartanDem]

25. For place that follow politics religiously this place isn't always the most savvy

[Cha]

3. Yeah, I blame them too..thanks for this very timely poll,

babylonsister! The Obama Team have to take all of this into consideration when getting the Health Care Reform passed..not just making DUers happy all the time:party:

[madmax]

4. I admire your style and tenacity bablonsister

but, after the Gibbs presser. I a loyal Obamamaniac am getting pissed off with this bi-partisan bullshit.

:hug: talk me down ;)

[babylonsister]

17. If Obama and Gibbs come out and directly say bipartisanship

is definitely off the table due to the intransigence of the rethugs, they set themselves up as targets for the rest of the month and beyond.

I think by saying nothing, or maintaining where they've been, that gives less ammo to the rethugs and might just keep them guessing. Might even make them think twice and curb their tongues. Meanwhile, Emanuel has really confused them!

I am optimistic that, when it counts, their talk will turn into action. There's no way this admin can ignore the fact that the rethugs just aren't that into them.

[SpartanDem]

24. You summed it up perfectly

you see this playing out with the finance committee theWH doesn't want to be seen walking away the the table first and the same is for the GOP too. Today 'pull the plug on grandma' Grassley is saying that they want a bipartisan bill '"I’ve said all year that something as big and important as health care legislation should have broad-based support,” Grassley said in a statement to The Hill.' What you see with all this continued talk of bipartisanship is a political game where each side wants to blame the other for walking away.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/grassley-to-dems-lets-keep-working-together-2009-08-19.html

[madmax]

26. Thanks sweetie

Trying to listen to this stuff for 2 days has me batshit crazy. I use CC tv and my eyes hurt! Plus, I have a selfish vested interest in seeing health care reform. I'm troubled about the outcome. :hug:

Visions of Hillary care keep dancing in my dreams.

[NYC_SKP]

5. But how can this be? Maybe the MSM are cherrypicking polls and results to create drama?

Thanks for this!

:applause:

[Clio the Leo]

18. and there you go.

"The President doesn't have to WIN at bipartisanship ..... he just has to TRY."

[alcibiades_mystery]

27. But I heard our communications were terrible and we were in chaos! Oh nooooeees!

Also, we're going to lose Pennsylvania!

:rofl: