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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 02:29 PM
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Grassley's Not Even Trying
GRASSLEY'S NOT EVEN TRYING.... On MSNBC's "Morning Meeting" earlier, Dylan Ratigan asked Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) about "death panels" as part of reform. "I see that as nothing more than a distortion coming from far-left with bringing up these end-of-life concerns," Grassley said, "which are not the issue that we ought to be talking about."

I have no idea what that means. The "far-left" is responsible for a bogus claim Grassley was touting as recently as last week?

Ezra Klein was on the same program, and noticed Grassley's striking approach to reform.

First, Grassley did not speak like Lindsey Graham or Olympia Snowe. He did not come onto the program determined to present a reasonable face and comfort liberals, conservatives and independents alike. Instead, he railed against "government-run health care" and the "Pelosi health-care bill." He talked about bureaucrats and exploding deficits. He sounded like a House conservative giving a stump speech. Grassley presumably leaves his stemwinders behind when he's with the Gang of Six. But this was not a comforting sign. This was not a unifying performance.

Second, Chuck Todd asked Grassley whether he'd vote for the bill if it was a good piece of policy that he'd crafted but that couldn't attract more than a handful of Republican votes. "Certainly not," replied Grassley. Todd tried again, clarifying that this was legislation Grassley liked, and thought would move the ball forward, but was getting bogged down due to partisanship. Grassley held firm. If a good bill cannot attract Republican support, then it is not a good bill, he argued.

Grassley, in other words, is working backward from the votes. If the Gang of Six reaches a compromise that the Senate Republicans don't support, Grassley will abandon that compromise, regardless of the fact that he's the guy who built it.


If President Obama pursues reform with Democratic votes, he's being "partisan." Grassley, meanwhile, will vote against his own compromise bill unless is has lots of Republican votes, but that's not "partisan" at all.

In order for negotiations to make sense, parties have to be willing to show some good faith, and a willingness to work towards a constructive goal. With this in mind, seeking a reasonable compromise with Chuck Grassley isn't just wrong, it's crazy.


Grassley has never demonstrated any sincere interest in genuine reform, but it seems over the last couple of weeks, the conservative Iowan has simply given up even trying to appear reasonable.He's talking up "death panel" nonsense. He's touting Glenn Beck's book. He's pulling common-sense measures with bipartisan support from the negotiating table. He's taking cheap and unnecessary shots at the president. He's making cheap and unnecessary arguments about "rationing" by exploiting Ted Kennedy's cancer.

The list is much longer, but these are just some of the developments from the last two weeks.

more...

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_08/019520.php
—Steve Benen
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 02:36 PM
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1. Yeah, he's a lying mess..I could see
that days ago. He must have some real brainwashed Americans in Iowa who support his ugliness.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 02:38 PM
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2. he's either senile or cynical
Edited on Mon Aug-17-09 02:39 PM by maxsolomon
this whole process is just making me hate the senate that much more. it's the house of lords without education.
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efilon Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 02:50 PM
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3. He's both senile and cynical
I've voted against him so many times and every time he ends up back in the Senate to embarrass the country and especially Iowans with his apparent stupidity. We are trying to get him out people! Please don't think all Iowans support him because we don't.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 02:54 PM
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4. The entire Finance commitee that is being allowed into the talks are embarrasing
We need actual Democrats in charge of Budget and Finance.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 02:54 PM
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5. My god these people get the word out fast.
Here's Grassley's insanity:
On MSNBC's "Morning Meeting" earlier, Dylan Ratigan asked Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) about "death panels" as part of reform. "I see that as nothing more than a distortion coming from far-left with bringing up these end-of-life concerns," Grassley said, "which are not the issue that we ought to be talking about."



And here's a comment from a more lucid right winger on a message board from this morning in a discussion I initiated about the hyprocrisy of Limbaugh, Beck, Grassley, and Palin on "death panels":
I can agree with some claims that this "death panel" rhetoric is over-the-top. I don't think we should descend into hysteria, but neither should we blindly surge forward with the quixotic notion that the government will always automatically be on our side. It is right to ask questions; it is right to seek reasonable answers, and not be placated with "promise-me-the-moon" rhetoric. The founding fathers surely never envisioned this level of intrusion by the federal government, and we shouldn't give it up easily.


Jeebus! Do they ever have an original thought?
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