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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:06 PM Original message |
If the public option is dead, who killed it? |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
1. Blue dogs, and by extension Rahm Emanuel. n/t |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. And by extension - President Obama. He had the will of the people and squandered it and caved. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. He was promoting the public option yesterday in Town Halls. How does that signal "caving"? |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
33. You do realize that support for public option nose-dived in the polls, don't you? |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. And, why did it nose-dive - because Obama never led the discussion to the people |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. The radio star˜ |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. And nobody FOUGHT for it. nt |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. The bill isn't even out of comittee yet, and you're already speaking in the past tense. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. You're right -- |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Except for the part a few months ago with the voting and all of those |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Agree -- and I was one of 'em. I was actually referring to |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's not dead, not even close |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. "Not even close"? "White House appears ready to drop 'public option'"-----> |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I put no faith in AP stories, they sometimes exaggerate. Besides I think |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. YES!!! to both you and TRIDIM- for not just eating the slop fed |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
40. The New York Times, LA Times, etc. are saying the same thing |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. You will get co-ops, and they will try to convince you that they are a public option |
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WatchWhatISay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Except that public options were already a bait and switch for single payer |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. A real public option would be giving people the right to opt for Medicare |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. yep! and I just wrote to my representatives and |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
8. Less than 24 hours after Obama's trimphant Colorado town hall meeting |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. I know! Just wackyness! n/t |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. that's a bad sign, either way |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
13. was it ever actually alive? |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. i agree in essence, but.... can you source your claim re. several trillion $$?? |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Obama secret negotiations with Pharma |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
16. The Democrats on the Hill in fear and trembling of the Conservative |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. You're right, I think. It makes me sick. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
24. The White House. Any more questions? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Why? |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
25. the insurance industry |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. There are no liberals in the intelligence and armed services committees |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. yes |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
30. Obama |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
31. It's dead???? |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Just one sliver of a whole not a necessary key non-negotiable aspect |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
36. The media is trying really, really hard. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
37. Oh, it's been a real group effort |
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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
38. Democrats in the Senate and House. Scared by the republicans' goons |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-16-09 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
39. Enemy #1: The insurance companies. Enemy #2: The undemocratic Senate |
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