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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:14 PM
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Anti-Healthcare Mobs = ALL SOUR GRAPES (& here's how to respond):
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 07:17 PM by RBInMaine
The anti-healthcare whackjobs really care very little about that issue, because that is not their real issue. Just as the birthers really don't care about Obama's birth status. The so called tea-partiers? Same deal. What is this really all about? Big shock coming: SOUR GRAPES OVER OBAMA AND DEMS IN CHARGE IN CONGRESS. That Obama, a black American Democrat, won the election pisses them off to the very core. Not to mention Dems in charge in Congress. They HATE it, can't stand it, can't believe it, can't accept it, and this birther malarkey and the healthcare and teabagger mobbing is really their way to vent. For them it is ALL about politics and very little about those issues. They think by staging this nonsense they can re-formulate public political opinion, and, as said it is their way, like the children they are, to throw political tantrums. So here is how we MUST respond:

1) Organize calls to politicians, letters to the editor, strong showings at our town halls and THEIRS with a strong counter message calling them out as rabid, irrational BRATS who lost an election and can't stand it so they allow themselves to be tools of corporate America. SHAME THEM. SPANK THEM VERBALLY. TREAT THEM LIKE THE BRATS THEY ARE !

2) At the town halls, counter back with verbal reactions and signs that treat them like the spoiled brat children that they are: i.e. "MIND YOUR MANNERS" "YOU LOST. GROW UP AND DEAL WITH IT." etc. I have used these with this kind of ilk, and believe me, it SHUTS THEM UP !

3) YES, RESPOND ! Forget this "take the high road" pussyfooting. The only way to deal with bullies is with STRENGTH ! At our political rallies in Maine, when the opposition gets out of line we surround them and SHUT THEM THE FUCK DOWN ! Howard Dean, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Kucinich, Weiner, Olberman, ANY of them will show you how to smash down right wingers. You NEVER let this shit go unanswered.

4) Organize, organize, organize, and SHOW UP at the town halls. Where the hell is Healthcare for America Now? the unions? Code Pink? Etc. etc. Get them there ! Yes keep calling the national GOP and state GOP headquarters. Badger the hell out of them ! Knock them back on their fucking heels !

5) At the town halls, spin on them and ask, "Are you saying you want to eliminate Medicare? C'mon ! Say it ! That's what you want, RIGHT!?" And VIDEO their answers! In fact, VIDEO them period and post it online and feed it to local media because it makes them look like the whackjobs they are.

OK, I'd appreciate feedback.
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LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:22 PM
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1. K&R for a brilliant strategy nt
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:40 PM
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2. Nothing but positive feedback
Unfortunately - I had to go to this site: Crazy Rabid Right Wing Wingnut Conservatives for Patient's Right's to find a comprehensive list of Town Hall meetings scheduled.

LO And Behold - they're all during the middle of the day. I checked out the CNN poll and I believe 50% of us are Pro-Health Care - and of those 50% - the majority are young people.

Young people that work.


We can't GET to the Town Halls because we have to work during the day. I'm pretty perturbed at the NJ Washington Big Wigs right now. I can't get out there (and I live in Bridgewater NJ/Somerset County - as red as it gets to shut the eejits down) because I HAVE to be at work in the middle of the day. What part of: Have meetings at different times of the day so that ALL of your constituents can get there don't these folks understand?

And yes - I've written both of my Senators. I'm of the mindset that when spoiled brat childish self-centered people throw temper tantrums - OUT YELL them. I'd gladly go and be obnoxious, tape them, etc. etc. -

Except my representation obviously doesn't want me there - or my many Democratic white collar high earning colleagues that would GLADLY pay higher taxes so everyone can see a doctor or get the APPROPRIATE care when they need it - because if they did . . . they'd say: Brigdgewater, well-educated, mostly white collar, work 9-5, better have a meeting that starts at 6:30 p.m. or later.


It's bullshit that they are holding their Town Halls when the people who actually work and pay taxes can't be there. <--- Yeah, I'm really ticked about the scheduling of these meetings.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:50 PM
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4. I agree. Town halls should be on weekends or during evenings. BUT, there are plenty of people out
Edited on Wed Aug-05-09 07:51 PM by RBInMaine
there who care about healthcare who could still be organized during the day. For christ sake, WE are the majority. Get college kids activists home from school. Get OUR retirees out there who support Medicare and healthcare reform. Get JOBLESS people who want healthcare reform and support progressive causes. Healthcare for America, MoveOn, Code Pink, and MANY others could damn well be organizing. Or at least hold counter demonstrations during evening hours and on weekends in public places and GET THE MEDIA THERE !
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:40 PM
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3. BTW
Recommend. Love the strategy.

Now who can go and give the brats hell? ;-)
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windy252 Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 08:12 PM
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5. k & r n/t
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:41 PM
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6. Bitterness and hatred, yes. But not "sour grapes" - a term that is frequently misused.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes
The English idiom "sour grapes" - derived from this fable - refers to:

the false denial of desire for something sought but not acquired
the denigration and feigning of disdain for that which one could not attain
The phrase is sometimes also used to refer to one expressing, in an unsportsmanlike or ungracious way, anger or frustration at having failed to acquire something (i.e. being a "sore loser"), regardless of whether the party denies their desire for the item. Not including the denial of desire is technically a slipshod extension of the metaphor because it is inconsistent with the phrase's origin in the fable and the notion of the grapes being declared "sour". <2>

http://www.deselbybowen.com/parlando/category/words/stock-phrases/
Sour Grapes means to devalue the thing you want but can't have. When you say, after not getting a job, "It probably sucked anyway," that's sour grapes.

Schoolmarm signing off... :-)
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 09:01 AM
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7. Colloquially, "Eating Sour Grapes" has come to be synonymous with "Sore Loser."
Edited on Thu Aug-06-09 09:03 AM by RBInMaine
I am well aware of the fable of the fox who could not reach the grapes so sulked off claiming "They were probably sour anyway." Yes, the best definition is when someone attributes a failure to a concocted excuse and pretends that what he/she really wants is now not wanted because it is no good. However, over time, the common meaning has been expanded to include "sore losership" in general and then whining, bitching, "protesting", complaining, making excuses, attacking the winner, etc. because you lost rather than just accepting it and working to be more successful the next time. And it is just fine to use the idea in that way. This has become commonly accepted. You are also right in that the right wing nut jobs are angry and full of hate. The sore losing and that go hand in glove.
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