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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 05:55 PM
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Health Care Reform LTTE I just sent in
I just sent my LTTE regarding Health Care Reform, I thought I would share it with you all and see what you think..



The Mythology of Republicans: Health Care Leviathan.

There is definitely a lot of Œinfo¹ about the Health Care Reform that is coming; too bad most of it is misinformation, if not flat out lying. All the Œdissent¹ rolling off forked tongues and the unruly behavior is mostly due to the media and the likes of Limbaugh, Fox News and other Republican hobbles.

Before I get into the Œwhat is,¹ I first would like to address the issue of Socialism. What is Socialism? According to the Socialist Party of America (www.sp-usa.org):

³THE SOCIALIST PARTY strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own control - a non-racist, classless, feminist socialist society... where working people own and control the means of production and distribution through democratically-controlled public agencies; where full employment is realized for everyone who wants to work; where workers have the right to form unions freely, and to strike and engage in other forms of job actions; and where the production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few. We believe socialism and democracy are one and indivisibleŠ²

Those who act as though Socialism is some vile and evil Government Philosophy, as well as the idea that Socialism is Communism which is more than often the case, just fail to look around and see that Socialism is already here. If Socialism is so wrong, then I think we need to pull up those things from their roots that are socialized in the States and make them for profit.

We should start with the Fire and Police Departments, which would also include 911; so when you have an emergency, you better have a valid credit card handy. Then there is the VA, yes the VA is a socialized institution; so all the veterans that need care will have to pay for services. Next we have Social Security, also a government run service that is also socialized, so I would expect that all those who are crying Œsocialism,¹ are not using this socialized service or will stop after reading this. It is not called Social Services for nothing, all the unemployment benefits and assistance is all socialized, so is Medicaid and Medicare. Do I need to go on or are you getting the picture?

Now some of the facts, about the Health Care reform; the ³what it is² versus the ³what it is not² part:

1: Your employer will not just offer the public option; you will be given a choice, which Federal Employees already have.

2: Private insurance will not be eliminated, the number of insured will increase to 2 million by 2019, most of which will be held by private insurance. Most people will choose to continue with their current providers through their employer.

3: Illegal immigrants are specifically excluded from coverage.

4: The public option is not too expensive: Rates are set based on income as it relates to the poverty level.

5: Health Care reform will not bust the budget, The CBO has also reported that the House plan is budget neutral and will create a $6 billion surplus

6: America does not have the best health care system in the world. America is ranked 37 in the world behind such countries as Colombia, Singapore and Morocco. France is rated at number one, followed by Italy.

Pew Research Center did a study that said (among other things): Just 15% say health care in this country is the "best in the world," while 23% rate it as "above average"; about six-in-ten (59%) view U.S. health care as either "average" (32%) or "below average" (27%). (source: healthcarerefromyths.org)

7: The Œrationing¹ of heath care myth: Well, it already is, since your insurer decides what is covered and how much they will pay, and if they do not pay you either pay for it yourself or go without.

The US is the only industrialized country without a universal health care system, it is also the most expensive yet it provides exclusively and not inclusively. For being the ³richest² country in the world, we do a horrible job at taking care of our less fortunate. It is also worthy to note that President Obama is not a Socialist, Obama is a Capitalist as is all US politicians. By offering a Public Option to the Health Care System, does not make one a Socialist, if that were the case then Medicaide and Medicare (which are socialized services) should be discontinued based on the "logic" of the Health Care Reform naysayers. In my opinion, some things should not be for profit; Health Care is a right and should not be seen as a privilege.

There are plenty more fallacies out there regarding Health Care Reform, all of which are false of course. A couple of good resources for you to read: healthcarereformmyths.org and healthreform.gov
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:09 PM
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1. YAY! We ALL need to write congress. My Rep sent me two LTTE guides, hope they're helpful to others.
Jerry McNerney's office sent out these two, I'm pasting them here.


FIRST: How to write a LTTE:

1. Pick your topic. We’ll send you a couple of topics – choose just one.

2. Have a catchy subject line: one short line that will
compel the reader to continue through your entire
letter.

3. Write clearly and concisely on your topic only, and
keep within the allowed word limit.

4. Include your main point in the first paragraph.

5. Spell-check and fact-check! Only use facts that you can insert a reference to, eg. In
Monday’s paper; or, In the letter John Smith wrote on Tuesday, etc.

6. Fill out all required information. Letters often will be rejected if the requested contact
information is missing. Some publications may even call you to verify that you, not
someone assuming your identity, wrote the letter.

7. Submit letter. You are more likely to have your letter printed if you submit to your local
paper, but feel free to submit to one or all papers.

SECOND: Simple Outlines (remember that some newspapers have a 250 word limit).

Energy: We need sustainable energy and jobs
• Thank you Congressman McNerney for supporting American Clean Energy and Security Act
• Because of your vote, we'll be creating millions of jobs here at home
• These are tough times and (City) needs these jobs
• This legislation is an American solution that will help get economy back on track and keep us all safe
OR
Energy: Energy Policy is National Security
• Thank you Congressman McNerney for supporting American Clean Energy and Security Act
• Because of your vote, we'll be creating millions of jobs here at home
• We'll also be safer because we won't be importing as much oil from overseas
• We can't afford to be dependent on other counties for energy
• This legislation is an American solution that will help get economy back on track and keep us all safe
OR
Healthcare: We Need Reform
• We need health care reform
• Health care costs are out of control
• Families are struggling to make ends meet
• I'm glad that we have a Congressman that's on our side
• He's looking for the best solutions for us to the health care system
OR
Healthcare: Our Congressman Listens to Us
• We need health care reform
• Health care costs are out of control
• Our Congressman McNerney listens to us
• He asked our opinion and ran a survey asking for suggestions all thru June
• He's looking for the best solutions for to the health care system


:patriot:
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:10 PM
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2. excellent. let's beat astroturf with REAL GRASS ROOTS
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:12 PM
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3. PLEASE, edit your letter, fix the mis-spellings, and reproduce it here
in a two sentence summary, I'm sorry, mis-spelled long letters do NOT GET READ!!!!

I don't read them either.

Get a computer that does spell check, PLEASE!
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:58 PM
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6. How about you suck my left nut...nt
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:31 PM
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11. How about you show a picture of your left nut...I have
several liberal Democrats lining up for my suck services on left nuts tonight, but your post.....surely

TAKES YOU TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE..........I have posted your offer on Craig's list!
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:14 PM
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4. sent it to where? What editor? Some editor who doesn't read letters filled with
mis-spellings?

Tell us how much you want to tell us, but PLEASE spell correctly, and tell us where we will see your PUBLISHED letter..not your fantasy of how your letter will be published somewhere somehow.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 06:18 PM
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5. you know, there's a right way and wrong way to offer criticism
you bloviating, consdescending bag of shit. Note: mine was the wrong way. As was yours. Tone it down.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:00 PM
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7. ThankYou...nt
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:30 PM
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9. Thanks to your no sense NONSENSE post...I have
nominated you for the airhead of the year award here............supporting people who say nothing, have no links...fits you well.you a Republican who got here by mistake"

TRY to conceive of the English language as a way to communicate with fellow human beings who support Obama..and Democratic principles...if you don't and want to insult a Democrat......perhaps you took a wrong turn......insulting me for asking for links to facts..I think you probably deserve to post on Hannity Forum, or Free Republic, or owe me an apology for your insulting remarks......

Name:
Address?
Social Security number"

We need this to allow you to continue posting insulting remarks here.

I'm sure you will not comply.....

You seem like a Freeper to me.
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:38 PM
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14. So why do you NOT tell us where and when you sent your letter?
Could it be that you are embarrasses by the mis-spellings, the mess you made, and how wherever you are, you will NOT be published.

I agree, you have a nice group of beliefs, but couldn't you find a person to edit your words, and clean it up before it was submitted? If not, I volunteer my services........

Tell me which paper you submitted it to.....otherwise, I think you are a Republican trying to make your mark here to gain credibility.

Most Democrats take responsibility for the what when and where and why.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 05:30 PM
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16. Shut the fuck up you ignorant clown....
apparently you cant read, it says "I just sent it in" moron...and I have nothing to be embarrassed about other than your affiliation with DU.

"I think you are a Republican trying to make your mark here to gain credibility." Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you fucker.
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:24 PM
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8. When no links and no real facts are presented, and I criticize.
I MUST BE BLOVIATING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How about the idea that some people who post here on DU, have no idea how to do anything with facts, figures, and they have FIVE OTHER PEOPLE willing to insult me when I point that out..

Both names, both profiles, both have been put on probation here with the new moderators.

We do NOT accept insulting posters here at DU.......try some other forum.



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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:31 PM
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10. wrong. you could have been polite. you were insulting
you're on my triple ignore probation wanker brigade list now! so there!

get a grip dude. if you want to give constructive criticism about how to heighten the likelihood a LTTE is published, fine. But you were being rude so I used my rudeness to you as an object lesson. Glad to see it helped.
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:35 PM
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12. OH.........THIS IS THE POLITE FORUM???????????
If you really were insulted by my insults......you are not really a Democrat, you are a Republican who is "insulted" by saying George W Bush was an asshole..........and you, my dear, have too much time on your hands, to tell us that I was insulting.

If you want to make a point, and get people to think, insult them.

.............

Rules for Radicals

If you want to be a "polite" Democrat, you have chosen the wrong party.



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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:37 PM
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13. switch to decaf.
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 07:40 PM
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15. Eat your own words, YOU have NO REASON to criticize me for
asking for details.....

You would do the same on any George W Bush statement, somehow YOU think asking for facts here is outrageous....because??????????
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