Let me get this straight, because Ann Durham was a US Citizen, even if Obama was born on Pluto....

[LynneSin]

he is still a US Citizen.

My friend just sent me the link to the constitution that pretty much guarenteed Obama US Natural Citizenship because of his mother.

So if that's the case - who cares where the birth certificate is from?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

1. That's what I've been saying all along. At least that's how I understand it.

Some of my friends were born in Spain and other places. It didn't make a difference because of the parent's US citizenship.

[Arkana]

2. It's not about a goddamn birth certificate. It never was.

These people don't care about facts because this reaction is purely based on emotion. They cannot grasp the fact that THEIR COUNTRY has become a nation that could conceivably elect a black dude named Barack Hussein Obama President.

This is their rebellion. They can't say "That N*GGER CAIN'T BE PREZNIT! HE'S A N*GGER!" even though that's what they feel, because they're at least smart enough to make a passing attempt at concealing their racism. Instead, they go "Well, that Obummer's not REEEEEALLLLY an American...".

[okieinpain]

29. i agree.

[Cha]

3. The lying fuckers and the

corporatemediawhores care.

[Rick Myers]

4. If you read the Constitution, it says...

(paraphrasing) The President must be born in the US AS OF THE WRITING OF THE CONSTITUTION. So, literally, NO President since Adams was legit!!!

[Buzz Clik]

5. I swear to God, my right ankle was around then. Can I be President?

[Flying Dream Blues]

9. So, I'm guessing Buzz Clik is the sound you make when you walk?

I keed, I keed. But dang that's an old ankle!

[Buzz Clik]

10. You're close.

After moderate exercise, the joint swells ever so slight and impinges on the nerve. "Buzz Clik" is the sound my eyes make when they roll back in my head when that happens. A little Advil, and all is well.

[Flying Dream Blues]

11. Oh, so sorry to make fun of an actual injury...

was just making a little joke. Glad the Advil takes care of you, tho!
:hi:

[LynneSin]

6. The Bushes were from Connecticut

ugh!

[Hamlette]

19. no, that is NOT what the constitution says

the prez must be a "natural born" citizen (which is subject to interpretation and has never been interpreted about an actual president) or be a citizen at the time of the adoption of the constitution.

[pinstikfartherin]

7. That is what I always thought, but I was never sure of it. nt

[Hamlette]

8. no, there is a question

Section 301 (if I remember correctly) states that between some date in the 1950's to 1986 the mother (or father) had to have lived in the US 10 years total, five of them after the parent's 14th birthday. Ann Durham was not 19 when he was born.

[AspenRose]

13. That's if he was born outside of the United States.

Which he was not.

United States Code, Title 8, Section 1401 (d)

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States




http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6206492

[Hamlette]

17. yes, I understood the question to be "if he was born outside of the US"

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.

http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_609.html

[question everything]

12. I asked the same thing

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=8555792

And it appears that a natural born citizen has to be born on American soil.

[DebJ]

14. Oops, the name is Dunham, not Durham....

Dunham is my maiden name so I notice silly things like that.

The question is not U.S. Citizenship, the question is 'natural-born', which apparently lacks a clear definition.

Of course this isn't the real issue for these jerks, anyway, but perhaps we should clearly define 'natural born'.

[Hieronymus]

15. Being a citizen isn't enough ... a president must be born in the US.

Obama WAS.

[Hamlette]

18. that might not be right

natural born is subject to interpretation.

[BlooInBloo]

21. Nah - he or she has to be born a citizen, not necessarily born in the US...

It's all moot in Obama's case, of course.

[Number23]

23. A natural born citizen means exactly what the name says

A person who is an American citizen at BIRTH, either because they were born on American soil or to American parents.

My daughter, born in Australia, is a natural born American citizen because her mother is a natural born American citizen.

[TankLV]

27. Natural Born means just that he/she can't be another country's citizen and then decide to become a

citizen.

Natural Born means that if a child is the child of at least ONE of the parents is a citizen, then that child is AUTOMATICALLY a citizen - no matter WHERE the child is "dropped"!

It just means that a child cannot be of another citizenship at birth, then a US Citizen LATER. Period.

[Hutzpa]

16. You guys are missing the motive

behind this, it's not about where he was born but that a black man should not be a President
of this country.

Thats how I see it...

[windbreeze]

26. and IMO you would be correct..

that is exactly what it has always been about...wb.

[midnight]

20. Amen. Post that link over at the Birthers web site, and they

should be able to get back to work helping to care for the other citizens who are looking for jobs, dig out of poverty, help feed an elderly person, or buy groceries for a neighbor. So much to do.

[JimWis]

22. Exactly.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

24. Ann was in Hawaii while Obama was being born

[democracy1st]

25. checkout this video lynne

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/03/orly-taitz-melts-down-on_n_250441.html

[Malikshah]

28. My brother was born in Germany while my Dad was stationed there...from what we

understand, as he had to be naturalized (even though both parents were US citizens) he's ineligible for the presidency.

Not that he has shown any desire for the job, mind you...