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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:11 PM
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Did The President Just Say He Will Not Sign A Health Reform Bill .....
that doesn't include a public option? Sounded like it to me. GO Obama!!!!!!!!!

CNN just ended the telecast of the President's Town Hall in North Carolina.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:12 PM
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1. No. He said he supports the public option, but will not sign a bill that is not deficit neutral etc
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:16 PM
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3. He Was This Close To Saying That - In My Mind He Inferred That In His......
comment that he is for the 'public option'.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:25 PM
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5. Why does this bill have to be deficit neutral?
When the Republicans wanted to go to war, they printed money to do it (they put us in debt). When Bush wanted to give huge tax cuts to millionaires, Republicans printed money to do it (they put us further in debt). Why is it that when Republicans want to do something awful for the country, we print money and ask no questions, but when a Democrat wants to do something really good for the American people, all of a sudden it has to be "deficit neutral?"

This is the kind of thing that makes me want to pull my hair out.

:argh:

:dem:

-Laelth
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sweettater Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:13 PM
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2. It was over.
:)
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:18 PM
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4. He didn't say it clearly. He said he supports a public option, but unlike many other town halls
recently, he backed off from saying bluntly that he will veto any bill not including a public option. He did say he'd veto a bill that was not deficit neutral, that wasn't paid for, and that wasn't 'right for the American people.'

I hope he still means what he has been saying over the past few weeks!!
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:27 PM
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7. he's never said he would veto without a public option
not once.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:29 PM
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9. He has said "I will not sign any bill that doesn't include a public option" in multiple town halls
Edited on Wed Jul-29-09 12:34 PM by Parker CA
over the past month.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:40 PM
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10. that is tricky semantics on his part, but it isn't a veto threat.
if he doesn't sign it, it will become law anyway in 10 days.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:45 PM
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12. I agree, very careful semantics. Today though, he did not say he wouldn't sign a bill
if it didn't include a public option. I hope he'd reject any bill that doesn't though.
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:27 PM
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6. He used to say "I will not sign a bill ..... that does not contain a public option"; well this
confirms that there will be no public option.

:-(
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:28 PM
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8. SAD CLOWN pr0n
Edited on Wed Jul-29-09 12:41 PM by Teaser
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:43 PM
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11. Really good Town Hall. He's emphasizing Exchange as giant pool savings and reforms.
A very good repeat and clarification of main areas of misinformation and aims. He addressed natural aprehension of DC, and also how they helped stopped the economic crisis from a disaster. Described the Stimulus, because part of the strategy of stopping reform is convincing how Obama can't handle the economy.

I actually think his talking less about public option may increase it's passage, if less of a flash point. We know co-ops can't be reliable and big enough to do what we need to, or expectations he's proposed. If co-ops are considered and never really materialize, sets public option up for failure

Kerry, Slaughter, Rockefeller and many others just said get it to conference.

If the public option does not overwhelm, yet, with maybe some firewalls I don't necessarily want, there will some cost savings to point towards so we can pass it and extend it later.

I've heard many exciting things lately utilizing the public option, when focus isn't on the politics, like Howard Deans guest yesterday subbing for KO. He authored a book project for Money Magazine that concluded the VA best, whose model for prevention, wellness, longtime care, etc, could translate to country hospitals, or as he said "St Elsewhere" hospitals, using the model and software, etc.
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