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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:11 AM
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Why has there been a "secret" group working on taking out the public option?
I thought this type of debate was to be out in the open.

After weeks of secretive talks, three Democrats and three Republicans on the Senate Finance Committee were edging closer to a compromise that excludes a requirement many congressional Democrats seek for large businesses to offer coverage to their workers. Nor would there be a provision for a government insurance option, despite Obama's support for such a plan, officials said....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090728/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_overhaul



"I'm going to do it on C-SPAN," Obama said. "We're going to do it publicly, so that you can watch to see, what is your congressman doing? What is your senator doing? Are your representatives looking after your interests when it comes to health care?"
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/beyond/2008/05/note-to-obama-might-want-to-as.html
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:15 AM
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1. This is all Baucus, who shut out his own committee, even the head of the Health subcommittee.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:16 AM
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2. Check out the DU history. There have been plenty
Edited on Wed Jul-29-09 12:21 AM by babylonsister
of health care forums on CSPAN. And we know who is doing what now.

Nice try.
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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:22 AM
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3. You knew about these six senators and what they were dealing away? nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:28 AM
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4. Rockefeller voiced his displeasure, so yes, I knew. nt
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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:31 AM
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5. Got one of those linky things? nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:40 AM
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6. Nah, it's your turn. Look it up. I've seen, heard and read him on
the public option.

I just bet you can find it yourself. I'm going to bed.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:44 AM
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11. I just read the other day that some of the other Dems were pissed that they were kept
out of these meetings. I already knew this too.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:48 AM
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7. They have been in secret meetings for weeks

Are you talking about the Senate Finance Committee hearing when Sen Baucus had doctors and nurses arrested for protesting for a single payer option and then, closed the hearings to the public...while the top health insurance lobbyists gave testimony....


The senate negotiation of removal of the public option and removing mandated employer health care coverage was negotiated BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 12:54 AM
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8. Not so secret, eh?
I know what's happening, am not happy about it, but it's not the end of the world despite what you might think.
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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 03:45 AM
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9. This agreement sure was secret to Rachel and Dean-
Maybe you could help keep them up to date.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n8WtNT1lgo
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:31 AM
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10. It's a poorly-kept secret.
Secret only because TV news doesn't talk about it.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:46 AM
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13. Exactly!
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:46 AM
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12. Why? Because the corporations OWN both parties. n/t
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 09:56 AM
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14. The #1 person Baucus kept this secret from was probably ... Obama.

How in the world did you conflate Obama with Baucus?

Baucus certainly never made any promise to conduct his business in public. The very reason Baucus *had* to conduct his meetings in private was to betray Obama and the Democratic party. You don't conspire to betray someone where that person can see/hear you.


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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-29-09 11:05 AM
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15. Well, to paraphrase Poppy Bush (who is probably idolized by most of these Puke Dogs)
"If the people knew what we have done, they would drag us out into the street and lynch us".

That's why the cowards hide in secret. And the whore media is willingly complicit in the coverup.
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