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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:57 AM Original message |
The mighty hypocrisy of selective objection to discrimination |
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PretzelWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
1. it's always about you, isn't it? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. You're still here? n/t |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:06 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Perhaps I should send my fabulous pink pony to give him a lift. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
23. Irony, you are so delicious! |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Sometimes, though, irony is really, really creepy. |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. >>Empathy, compassion, and putting ourselves in another's place can never steer us wrong. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
2. K&R. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
3. Are most LGBTers real upset about this "Gates" incident? |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. We seem to be speaking out, yes |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:53 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. well, OK. |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I believe . . . |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:02 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I only saw the pony reference as mentioned in your op...... |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. It's a matter of hypocrisy |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:21 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Like I said, I see your point..... |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. There are differences |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:43 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I hear you on making Health Care the priority right this moment.... |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:55 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. The President has nothing to apologize for |
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Leo The Cleo (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
54. NOT SURE ABOUT THIS |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. TOTALLY SURE ABOUT THIS |
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Leo The Cleo (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #55 |
68. STILL NOT SURE |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #9 |
29. It was in another thread |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
30. Excuse me, Frenchie |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. As I mentioned.....I was unaware of all that had taken place, |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
24. Passive-aggressive question, as you know. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #24 |
39. Well, I did rec this post......and not passive-aggressively.... |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 08:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
66. I haven't kept a tally of who has posted and who hasn't |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
5. k&r |
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HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
8. Sigh. |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:03 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. No, it's a call for awareness and respect |
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HopeOverFear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:06 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Yeah I know. I changed what I said. I'm tired. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
15. What a wonderfully thoughtful response |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Thank you for that n/t |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:52 AM Response to Original message |
17. ... |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:00 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Sappho! |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 04:59 AM Response to Original message |
22. Good commentary. Recommended. |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:02 AM Response to Original message |
25. Ding, ding, ding |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:17 AM Response to Original message |
27. yes they were tripping over themselves to shove Melissa |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 06:37 AM Response to Original message |
28. One part of your analysis is definitely wrong |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:44 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Ironic that you would cite James Baldwin in light of the context of this OP |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. No, it's not ironic. For some reason, people want to erase who Baldwin and Rustin actually were |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. People have been trying to erase their sexuality for decades. n/t |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
47. we agree - there are people actively trying to erase who Baldwin and Rustin actually were |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. We're talking about what would happen today |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #42 |
71. i would hope that crowley would speak at a democratic event |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
31. beautifully articulated |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
33. I've long believed that issues affecting blacks and gays specifically get the same treatment here |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
36. K&R. "Bigotry and discrimination are never acceptable." |
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enigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
37. Excellent post |
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VMI Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
40. There is much truth in your post. Well said. |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
43. Thanks for the wedgie |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #43 |
51. I'm not sure |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
44. Kick for the afternoon crew. n/t |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
46. Bravo and amen. First they came for..... nt |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
48. . |
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TokenQueer (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
49. Thank you, Prism. |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. So that's what that is |
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TokenQueer (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #52 |
90. Uh, oh... |
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Alenne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
50. But he would invite him to the White House for a beer. nt |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
53. Apples and oranges. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. This isn't about a paradigm of "the gays vs Obama" |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. I think you've missed the point entirely |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Okay, I see your point. |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. That's a loathsome sentiment |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
59. I remember a post by you on Gates and |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. It's no problem. |
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Veruca Salt (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
60. Great post! |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-25-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. And not only race and orientation |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 06:29 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. BINGO! |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 08:46 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. It's funny how DU, for an allegedly progressive site, never, ever, ever discusses class. |
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Leo The Cleo (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. I don't know that This is True |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Post a thread about class and see how long it takes to fall off the first page. |
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Leo The Cleo (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I don't know that our party can deal with class until . . . |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
72. i can't agree with your premise |
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Leo The Cleo (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. I can't agree with your premise |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. i was refferring to the OP's claim that the gates incident |
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Leo The Cleo (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Then I Misunderstood |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. this seems to be about the hypocrisy of certain posters |
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Leo The Cleo (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. Hey, I care not for inside talk |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Where does the OP say that the Gates incident was "denounced by everyone at DU?" |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. he claims there are "vast differences" |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. You may be missing the point of the post |
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Leo The Cleo (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Aren't There People Insensitive To Black Issues |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. Of course there were DU'ers in support of Crowley |
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Leo The Cleo (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Only and Exclusively Pointed Out The Matter From One Side |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. no...i just disagree |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. I agree that DU is no more enlightened than the rest of America |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. i finally got that |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. ... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. for sure |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-26-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #72 |
89. Ruggerson laid it out well |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
91. racial and GLBT discrimination are the same but different. |
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