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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:56 PM Original message |
The officer's perspective.... |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. I couldn't agree more, you're being white negates anything you have to say on the subject. |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. lol |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. hee hee |
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These Eyes (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. !!!… |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
51. Fuckin' A! |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
92. Cue the bigots.... |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
100. bwahahahah |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
101. Ahh..racism swings both ways here, doesn't it! |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yes, Im sure those police were terrified of a 150 lb old black man who walks with a cane. |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. They probably looked up who lived there and knew who it was when they saw him |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. No, but they sure as hell knew he was the owner of the house when they arrested him. |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I thought as much! |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. yeap |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
35. He doesn't own the house. nt |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. His residence is listed on the ID he provided. It was his legal residence. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. Yes he lives there. Your mistake - you said he owned it. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. And that changes things...not at all since Gates' address was listed on his ID as the current |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. just everything you are trying to say |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Please explain how it changes anything. He was able to prove he was NOT breaking into the house. |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. A police officer... |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. But he SHOWED them his ID and was arrested anyway. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. He gave the officer his fucking ID. That should have been the END OF IT. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
44. First of all he didn't break into his home. The door was jammed he used a KEY to open the back |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
94. Thanks Raineyb n/t |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
61. WHAT? |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
75. Actually, they do have the right to arrest you if you get in their face. |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. The Supremes ruled on that one a long time ago, dude. |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:34 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Wrong. |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. If I'm on my fucking property, like Gates was.... |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #83 |
122. Again, wrong. |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #122 |
131. WRONG! |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #131 |
137. Learn the law. |
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JayMusgrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Ha? you seem to think it's OKAY to arrest a guy who |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:12 AM Response to Reply #84 |
123. Read my post |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #123 |
134. Either you're mixing up your facts or |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #134 |
138. Because it is all subjective. |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
80. quit your fucking wanking |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
88. They didn't have to take his word for it. He showed his idea. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
41. Thank you, SemiCharmed. Although "cane" and "150 lb" have far less signficance than "black" |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
5. Gate's side of the story has come out |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
6. HAHHAHA, the cop KNEW Gates was in his own home when he arrested him |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. Yawn! |
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These Eyes (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
26. I so agree with you… |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
14. He should have made sure his hands were behind his back |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
15. I just saw the cop on TV. He said he did not vote for Obama, |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. Non-sequitur. |
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rzemanfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
59. Then he would have just said "I didn't vote." It was clear from the |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Does that make him a racist? |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:49 PM Original message |
Does it make him a racist? On |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
68. Just asking. |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
16. "Gates should have handed over his ID calmly" - AGREED. Why is it so |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
89. he did comply |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
17. I agree. The neighbor was doing HER job at calling it in. Cops were doing THEIR job... |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Read the post just below. It's important. |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Um....It has nothing to do with the Gates incident. Facts are hard to deal with.. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
90. "Facts are hard to deal with," as your post shows, filled as it is with conjecture and disputed |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. I agree! I would |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. It was noon. Broad daylight. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. They're not interested in facts. |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. I would call the police in the middle of the day... |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. So in broad daylight, you wouldn't be able to recognize your only black neighbor.. one with a cane |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. supposedly |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. Her 911 call stated that "two black men with backpacks are breaking in" |
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Change has come (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #48 |
95. Is it common... |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
46. It's not uncommon to not know one's neighbors. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. Same here - 19 years. I would like to meet them some day however. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
18. You need to, at least, have your facts somewhat straight... |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. Of course it negates it if you take his OWN word for it. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. Here are the TWO versions of the police report... |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Two different people filled reports... Likely there will be two more as there were... |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. It seems the officers still have a different version of the event even when they were BOTH in .... |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. No. If you read the texts, they are quite similar. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. You are incorrect, the second states quite clearly... |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. I would love to read the statements made by |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. Given there is to be an investigation into the actions of the officers... |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Well he does rent the property. And the house had been broken into before. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. His ID had his current address .... |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. And once shown, the officer left the house, only to be pursued by Gates... |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. You posted he rented the house... |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #82 |
91. Why a neighbor may not know him. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:45 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. Ahhh, I understand your point re the renter. I don't believe I raised.. |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:35 AM Response to Reply #96 |
104. It would be interesting however as it seems the only point not discussed yet. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. It certainly has been raised by some posters, not most and not by |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #107 |
110. In reality here's an easy place for racism shouts to be directed actually... |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:52 AM Response to Reply #110 |
112. The person who called it in did not have the power/authority to... |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:05 AM Response to Reply #112 |
115. If you want to talk about racism in America we do not pick and choose who to look at. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:24 AM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Yes that is true when the subject is racism in America but that was not... |
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seaglass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
47. You don't know that this is fact - it is Gates statement. It could be true, untrue |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #47 |
76. I put both Dr. Gates version of the incident and the TWO police reports out there... |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
22. I agree with you on this - |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. He DID show his identification. Read Spazito's post above. |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. I know...or imagine if it wasn't a robbery |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Read Spazito's post above. You're wrong on so many levels. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. He. Showed. His. ID. Before. He. Was. Arrested. |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. That doesn't matter to "some" people. *sigh* |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
23. What appears to have happened is that Gates got really pissed off . . . |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. He did. The altercation didn't happen in the house... |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
27. Enjoy the flamefest. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
64. I don't know about you but |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Heh heh. |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
43. After today I wish I owned the popcorn concession here. |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #43 |
70. Sooo bloated! |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
67. Very happy to be able to UNrec this. It's not your "being white" that "negates" this .. it's the |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. You have all the facts? Were you there.? |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. 3 |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:54 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Agree. n/t |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
79. this is some really stupid shit |
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JayMusgrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
85. THERE is NO "OFFICER's PERSCPECTIVE" |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:10 AM Response to Reply #85 |
98. My brother was arrested a few years ago for |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
86. I see many people who admit that racial profiling (for example) exists in the general case, but then |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
87. The thin blue line- very well stated |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
93. These are the men and women who are taught how to defuse tense situations. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
97. Thank you for posting this, busymom. But why do you feel that being white negates |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:16 AM Response to Reply #97 |
99. I didn't mean it as a sarcastic dig, sadly... |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #99 |
102. WTF? |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #102 |
109. That isn't what I suggested, but |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:10 AM Response to Reply #109 |
116. You're implying that the wronged need to take the high road |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #116 |
126. CakeGrrl, the officer did not shoot anyone, nor did he shove a plunger up Gates' ass. |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. Exactly right! |
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bertrussell (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:02 AM Response to Reply #99 |
119. "Most white people feel there is racial equality now" Hahahahaha! |
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PretzelWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
103. you may be right about how he COULD have averted being cuffed and stuffed |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:37 AM Response to Reply #103 |
105. For doing his job word for word he should lose his job... mmhmm... |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
106. The officer's perspective....should have been to apologize for any hassle and |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:48 AM Response to Reply #106 |
111. And there we see the problem.... |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #111 |
113. I didn't say a damn thing about race. He's a monkey ass for not scooting the fuck along when his |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:02 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. and by reminding dumbasses of all |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:10 AM Response to Reply #114 |
121. So, you're blaming Gates for not showing the proper amount of RESPECT |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #111 |
127. Geez, you are beyond belief |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. sarcasm alert |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Uhhh, given your consistent posts on the subject, I find it unlikely it |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
108. OH MY GOD, A BLACK PERSON IS ON THE PREMISES!!! |
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bertrussell (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
118. Quite frankly, the cops acted unprofessionally |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
120. The officer who arrested Prof. Gates after Gates showed his ID |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
124. I am white also and I think Obama was correct - the officer acted stupidly. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
125. Unrecommend |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
132. you've forgotten to take into account how |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
133. the officer treated Gates like a suspect from the get-go |
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busymom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. Duh...of course he was a suspect initially... |
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Aramchek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-24-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. why wasn't he seen as a homeowner in potential danger initially? |
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