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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:50 AM Original message |
Please Mr. Charlie, We're So Sorry We Complained About Driving While Black. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. Come on. Yes, the cops messed up. But, calling them there was basically legit. |
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goddess40 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. It's pretty sad the neighbors didn't recognize him |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I don't think this cop was racist. The neighbor was simply afraid and probably ignorant. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #6 |
35. it wasnt a neighbor |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #35 |
66. REally?..'Cause I hadn't heard that and |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #66 |
94. Ditto. I heard conversation with Gates's lawyer, and he implied it was a neighbor. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. The problem is what happened after the ID was shown |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #11 |
70. I think the cop had a big |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
103. Correct. But arresting the good professor because he got legitimately |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
2. so. let me see if I understand this correctly. |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. You understand nothing. |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. They will never get it. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. also you putting words in my mouth IS changing the facts |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. You don't know that's a fact |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. the whole incident makes me sad |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #33 |
42. I don't see that at all |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. at last, I agree. |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #31 |
78. As I understand it, after eventually showing the officer his ID |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #25 |
36. the FACT is he did show ID |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. sigh |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #40 |
55. again, "how long" doesnt make a damn difference legally. |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #55 |
62. I get it |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #62 |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #72 |
84. I've gotten into it with this person before |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. i think i made my point |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #25 |
43. How do you know he initially refused? |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:30 AM Original message |
okay, I think we're all getting closer to the middle |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
56. of course, the middle isn't always right, but here goes |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. "please Mr. Charlie" |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. What do you mean? |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #68 |
73. background? |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
71. Have you seen a movie called Amos n Andrew? |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. thank you |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. You're welcome |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #58 |
63. a lie is something people tell when they know the truth |
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Raschel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
81. Well it's quite obvious that Gates was "arrogant"....... |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
17. chip meet shoulder |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. So... after the id was produced, shouldn't the cop have left? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Gates was disturbing the officers right to order shiftless n*gg**s around |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. sigh... There are other possibilities. Cops can be pricks without being racists. |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Right. This is the game always played. Let's search |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. nobody is blaming the victim |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. You do realize you just blamed the victim in a post where you denied blaming the victim right? n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #26 |
37. cops do not have a right to knock on doors and demand ID of inhabitants |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. if they are responding to a burglary call they sure as hell do. |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. You sound really confident. Are you sure? |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. okay now we're going in circles |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #50 |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
87. Dude, since you're all into speculating what happened based on what little you know |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #87 |
107. hey this happened to me |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #21 |
38. Had Gates cooperated initially he probably would have been arrested immediately |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. more crystal balls |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:30 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. lol |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. if you complied, you did so by choice |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. you do know we're actually on the same side right? |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. i cant tell what side your on. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
91. Neither can I. n/t |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
95. That is unfair. I have left open the possibility of racism from the beginning. |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. yes I AGREE |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
98. You don't come across as being particularly neutral here. |
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12. What the hell? |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. wow |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
65. oy. |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
34. That was a really stupid post. |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. really? why? |
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Hard_Work (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
77. so. let ME see if I understand YOU correctly. |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
9. Hi Solomon |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. There are a lot of people who are no better than freepers when it comes to race around here |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #13 |
32. well, make your point |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
100. Every time there's an incident that involves race there are always the apologists who come out and |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #100 |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. What gets my goat is if Gates had stepped out as |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #16 |
30. magnificent crystal ball |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
29. this has gone off the rails |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #29 |
67. Yeah Let's just agree like the Supreme Court once |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. yeah, and states rights for gay marriage |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:07 AM Response to Reply #9 |
75. Were there any good callers to |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #75 |
80. I've been peeking in on the radio and it's the standard |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. They must be racists then because |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
92. It's such bullshit |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
82. Why is Mr Gates NOT "allowed" to be a douchebag? |
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cleveramerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #82 |
85. if a cop investigating a 911 call asks you for ID |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Gates showed the cop his ID well before the arrest. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #85 |
97. and hopefully the force will get hammered on improper arrest |
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Raschel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Exactly! Justifying what police do to minorities has emboldened cops to move on to the White |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #82 |
93. Because he's black... |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
96. Whites (in general terms) apparently want to be harrassed and for police to be above the law rather |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
99. My Burglarly story, absolutely true |
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