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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:56 PM Original message |
I Am Not Black - But If I Was Arrested For Trying To Enter My Own Home |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. I don't agree with the arrest, but that's not WHY Gates was arrested. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I call bullshit on your attempting to go thread to thread excusing the behavior |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Soo you believe that a white man who acted in the same way would have been treated differently? |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. i know so |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. We have different definitions of "know"...but everybody is entitled to an opinion. |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:48 AM Response to Reply #20 |
74. how could you know so. n/t. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
51. An older white man with a cane in his home would not have |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. This is a Harvard-owned house in Cambridge. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 05:39 AM Response to Reply #55 |
63. "....because Gates acted like an ass." |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #63 |
75. I believe gates could have handled himself better. he might have been |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #55 |
85. shockingly, "acting like an ass" is not illegal. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. BINGO!!! n/t |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #55 |
95. In the officers report he said he knew who Gates was |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #17 |
81. Yes I do. A white man would not have been taken into custody. n/t |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. You rock, Aunt Patsy! |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
86. Where in that person's post did they excuse the behavior? |
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countingbluecars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. How dare a black man speak |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Oooh, don't ask a cop for his badge number |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
76. but they do. I've also been confronted by black police officers too. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Never had a cop treat me like that |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:23 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. right cop at the right time. I had a cop tell me stuff can happen to me |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Oh I completely believe you |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Ooooh - "combative" now was he? HAHAHAAHAA!!!! |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Gates was arrested because he was black. |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. No, Gates Was Arrested Because The Officer Was An Idiot and... |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 03:02 AM Response to Reply #16 |
61. sounds like a birther to me |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #16 |
79. The only time I have ever had a gun (actually guns) pulled on me was when I was walking out of my |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. You know what? In your own home you are allowed to be as verbally |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Verbally Combatitive? Man! Right Wingers Would Be Arrested Left and Right! |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Even still, there was no reason to arrest him. |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Exactly! When Is Rush Limbaugh Not "Verbally Combatitive"? |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. .....and if anyone deserves to be arrested, it's that disgusting blob! |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. And that's exactly what I stated. |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. I know. I was just expounding on your point. n/t |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
42. I wonder how that cop feels now, having been called out by the President of the United States |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. "Contempt of Cop" |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 09:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
78. Especially when the arrestee is black, eh? |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Asking an officer who was dead ass wrong for name and badge# |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. He was not. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:05 AM Response to Reply #30 |
37. The officer states that he gave Gates his name. |
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lxlxlxl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
31. why is being 'verbally abusive' a reason to drag someone to jail? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Did you even read my post? You're agreeing with me. |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. I never knew being "verbally combative" could get you arrested |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Then you've been unaware of "disorderly conduct" laws. |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:10 AM Response to Reply #36 |
58. Disorderly Conduct Charges Often Leads To First Amendment Issues... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:35 AM Response to Reply #36 |
65. WITHIN ONE'S OWN DOMICILE? Not drunk, not playing loud music to annoy, no firecrackers,...?! |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
83. Nice try, but that doesn't apply in this case at all |
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Ysabela (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
45. Being an uppity black man is always a valid excuse for arresting someone. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #45 |
53. So has acting like an ass when police are investigating a complaint. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
64. "Verbally combative" WITHIN ONE'S OWN HOME? NOTICE the charges were DROPPED. |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
67. "loud talking" on his own porch |
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Teaser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:14 AM Response to Reply #1 |
69. If a cop comes on my property, I can mouth off to them all I want |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
72. he was arrested for being black (nt) |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
73. What a surprise coming from you. |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
77. Congrats for defending such blatant racism |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
80. and he had every reason to demand name and badge number |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. That's right. Once it was determined he was in his own house the cop had no business |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. At that stage he was trespassing |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Yes he was. Why would the cop stick around other than to stir up trouble? n/t |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Words have meaning. The officer was NOT "trespassing" |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:22 PM Original message |
Did he ask Gates to come out before or after he put the cuffs on him |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
28. Gates left the house on his own before he was cuffed. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
90. STOP TRYING AND FAILING DISMALLY TO |
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angee_is_mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
25. Here's the deal |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. ...not only that, how many come to the door when the police knock on it!? |
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angee_is_mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. and the neighbor |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:34 AM Response to Reply #29 |
44. The "limo" didn't have to be a real limo. Even here in Lawrence, Kansas, the |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
91. But just so happened, IN THIS CASE, it was a LIMOUSINE |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:32 AM Response to Reply #26 |
43. And don't forget,, When Gates came to the door, he was still talking on the phone-- |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #25 |
46. You've got to admit, it would be a great cover. ;-) |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:25 AM Response to Reply #46 |
62. Doesn't anyone ever sue for false arrest anymore? nt |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
27. Thank you! |
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deep1 (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
34. Thank you! |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:51 AM Response to Reply #34 |
71. The only poster defending those racist cops on this thread |
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Kdillard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
35. Seriously it turned a minor situation into a bigger deal than it needed to be. |
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angee_is_mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. He has a bum leg |
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Kdillard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Yeah I was watching CNN and Soledad Obrien mentioned that |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
92. 'The Professor' is not the only one upset. Have you ANY |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
39. Seems like a-hole cop syndrome |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. My lawyer says Disorderly Conduct is AKA "Contempt of Cop" |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:51 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Yep |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
40. Police were called to our house when my daugher was breaking in. |
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Ysabela (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. I bet I can guess what race your daughter is... n/t |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:59 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. And I'd bet you'd guess right. |
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orwell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
49. The same thing happened to me about 25 years ago... |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:10 AM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Did you tell them that they were only asking you for ID because they were white and you were black? |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
54. I see nothing wrong with the police answering a call of a possible break in. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:07 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. But they asked a BLACK man for ID in his OWN HOME!!! |
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TomCADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:17 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. No... |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 01:20 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. I agree. The arrest was unjustified, but it wasn't based on race. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #60 |
89. Which is completely consistent with Obama's statement. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #60 |
94. And YOU are in denial to put it mildly. n/t |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 06:41 AM Response to Original message |
66. Race was everything. It was the impetus. Two words: Amadou Diallo. |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:10 AM Response to Original message |
68. From Kos- Diary w/Gate's account & a picture |
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Zen Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
70. To arrest someone for "disorderly conduct" in their own home .... that's STUPID! |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
93. Gates wasn't even arrested for trying to enter his own home, lol. |
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